Erzac

Back again with the new power rankings for Fishbowl season 12, on day 5.
 
I decided to change the formula slightly. Rather than only considering the best goalie, I've decided to weigh a teams best goalie at 0.75 and second best goalie at 0.25. Formula used for overall is:
[(average offence) * 12 + (average defence) * 12 + (best goalie) *0.75 + (second best goalie) * 0.25]/25
 
 
1. Larson Knights - Kelvin "unknown forum name"
Off: 90.67 Def 92.33 Glt:89.75 Ovr: 91.43
Previous position: 2nd, playoff 2
 
2. Hawkeye Revolution - Marcel Proust "MProust/Haradim"
Off: 89.42 Def: 92.17 Glt: 91.5 Ovr: 90.82
Previous position: 3rd, playoff 4
 
3. Horn lake Hooligans - Mike Grubb "Mickg34"
Off: 89.17 Def: 90.67 Glt: 95.25 Ovr: 90.13
Previous position: 1st + Golden cup winner
 
4. Pinewood Lumberjacks - Matt H "Mattlumberjacks" aka "me"
Off: 89 Def: 90.83 Glt: 90.75 Ovr: 89.95
Previous position: 10th
 
5. Cuba City Eagles - Mare Maro "unknown forum name"
Off: 89.17 Def: 89.33 Glt: 89 Ovr: 89.24
Previous position: 4th, playoff 2
 
6. Wynward Wildfire - Matthew Bernsten
Off: 88.33 Def: 89.83 Glt: 91.75 Ovr: 89.19
Previous position: 9th
 
7. Wildwood Violent Rush - Juho Kainulainen "Keskustankeisari"
Off: 88.75 Def: 89.5 Glt: 90.5 Ovr: 89.18
Previous position: 6th, playoff 2
 
8. Wolfe Wolves - Marcel Cloutier "unknown forum name"
Off: 87.58 Def: 90 Glt: 89.5 Ovr: 88.82
Previous position: 7th, playoff 3
 
9. Cedar Rapids Panthers - Mauri Nieminen " unknown forum name"
Off: 89.17 Def: 88.17 Glt: 90 Ovr: 88.72
Previous position: 5th, playoff 3
 
10. Urbancrest Comets - Noah High "unknown forum name"
Off: 88.33 Def: 88 Glt: 95.5 Ovr: 88.46
Previous position: 14th
 
11. Sellwood Spirits - Misco Grossi " unkown forum name"
Off: 87.75 Def 88.17 Glt: 88.75 Ovr: 87.99
Previous position: 11th
 
12. Molson Monkeys - Nathan Macdonald "unknown forum name"
Off: 87.42 Def: 88 Glt: 90.75 Ovr: 87.83
Previous position: 13th
 
13. Montmorency Vortex - computer (previously ineffableleafs)
Off: 86.92 Def: 87.83 Glt: 92.5 Ovr: 87.58
Previous position: 8th, playoff 2
 
14. Batchawana Battlin Bears - Joe Leconte "forum name unkown"
Off: 86.92 Def: 87.5 Glt: 91.5 Ovr: 87.38
Previous position: SHL 1st
 
15.Blenheim Pirates - Martin J. "unknown forum name"
Off: 87.08 Def: 86.67 Glt: 91.5 Ovr: 87.06
Previous position: 12th
 
16. Morden Defenders - Justin Camara "JMonkey"
Off: 85.08 Def: 87.83 Glt: 89.75 Ovr: 86.59
Previous position: SHL 2nd

Hey guys,
 
Giving it a shot in a slower World. Took over the last team in the World I believe. Can't wait to build some close relationships in this World and make it to the top! Let's see how we do in our first season 
 
I'm just getting the feel of my team (Kingston Assassins in SHL) atm, so feel free to send in any offers, suggestions, etc. I'm willing to listen to anything right now 

Season 13 update has been added to the 1st post - and below.  Not much improvement from the Italians this year.
 

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,6
 
2. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 92 SG: 92 OVR: 90,8
 
3. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91: SG: 95 OVR: 90,5
 
4. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 90 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 90,3
 
5. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 90,0
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 88 DEF: 92 SG: 90 OVR: 89,8
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 89,6
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,6
 
10. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 89,3
 
11. Buckingham Breakouts (Jussi "jusatin" Ahonen)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 88,8
 
12. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,8
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,5
 
14. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 94 OVR: 88,2
 
15. Sault Ste Marie Admirals (Jacques de Gatineau)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 87,3
 
16. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 87,2
 
Calculated on day 5 of S13, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

There has been some discussion about this topic in the chat box here and figured it may be a good subject to hash out a bit more. The idea is to try and better engage the community. I really enjoy the chat box in top of the page here and think it would be great to see it in a similar format that sits on top of the browser rather than in the manager tabs. I know there were other ideas discussed as well so please throw those in here too.

Well we had a five game winning streak, lost a game and then lost in a shootout earlier today. I went back to see how the team was looking and now the Confidence is OK, the Teamwork is Good, and the Winner Instinct is back to OK (and in the blue again). I'm really confused. Also, the Confidence bar is at like 90% Green but we're just Ok in that department while the Teamwork is near 75% and Good...and how do I lose Winner Instinct???

My Clapper team is currently on a decent streak. I just had one of my defenders (who was my captain) go down for a few days. While he was away I assigned a new temporary captain to fill the void. When making that change nothing was altered on my team chemistry (Confidence: Good, Teamwork: Good, Winner Instinct: Ok) . Now that I brought him back my team stayed the same in Confidence, dropped to OK in Teamwork and increased to a Strong Winner Instinct...what the heck?

These are indeed quite puzzling.
 
From what I've observed(merely observations, not based on actual raw fact),
 
Teamwork: Solely based on traits, doesn't fluctuate without roster moves.
 
Confidence: A mix of individual players' confidences as well as team record. The only time I've seen better than OK confidence was last season in SHL where I had multiple long winning streaks. Even then it didn't rise above "good", so there must be some other factors involved as well. Perhaps some traits factor in?
 
Winner instinct: Largely based on "big games" - trait, goalies seem to factor in more than your average skater. There are also some unknown factors involved that make it fluctuate a little. Possibly season record or recent games affect it somehow. I've witnessed a drop from heroic to strong, and from strong to ok while absolutely nothing else changed. No roster, lineup, confidence or training change. Just time passing, I.E. games being played/training happening(with no modifications to intensity).
 
I also have a wild, possibly completely misplaced hunch, that your whole roster factors into these, including players in the minors. That could explain some of the weird fluctuations as well as the confidence bar seemingly lagging behind the main roster's overall confidence. But I've zero tangible facts on this.
 
As to whether these have any actual effect on team performance, I haven't figured out. If there's an effect, it would seem to be quite small. Any big movements in the team spirits are (almost) always associated with trades, thus making it hard to judge whether the differences in team performance are a result from the different players or the team spirits changing.

These are indeed quite puzzling.
 
From what I've observed(merely observations, not based on actual raw fact),
 
Teamwork: Solely based on traits, doesn't fluctuate without roster moves.
 
Confidence: A mix of individual players' confidences as well as team record. The only time I've seen better than OK confidence was last season in SHL where I had multiple long winning streaks. Even then it didn't rise above "good", so there must be some other factors involved as well. Perhaps some traits factor in?
 
Winner instinct: Largely based on "big games" - trait, goalies seem to factor in more than your average skater. There are also some unknown factors involved that make it fluctuate a little. Possibly season record or recent games affect it somehow. I've witnessed a drop from heroic to strong, and from strong to ok while absolutely nothing else changed. No roster, lineup, confidence or training change. Just time passing, I.E. games being played/training happening(with no modifications to intensity).
 
I also have a wild, possibly completely misplaced hunch, that your whole roster factors into these, including players in the minors. That could explain some of the weird fluctuations as well as the confidence bar seemingly lagging behind the main roster's overall confidence. But I've zero tangible facts on this.
 
As to whether these have any actual effect on team performance, I haven't figured out. If there's an effect, it would seem to be quite small. Any big movements in the team spirits are (almost) always associated with trades, thus making it hard to judge whether the differences in team performance are a result from the different players or the team spirits changing.

I used to think tough or agitator would boost physical play, but I'm becoming more and more certain they just draw more penalties with little correlation to actual physical play. Gentle and respectful players seem to generate the same amount of hits as somewhat equal tough/agitator counterparts.

Well this is not a pug but i keep receiving a virus detection time to time when i am reading these forums. I will attach a prt sc of it.

Here, I had some free time so I decided to once again do the Fishbowl Power Rankings for this new season.The formula is the same for total overall average as past season (offensive players + 2 * defensive players + best goaltender)/25. Rather than just chose the top players from each team, I selected players in order as your regular lineup or a swap of players if there is a stronger injured player and then filled any remaining holes with the top scratched/affiliated players. I've also done an average for height (in cm as it's easier) excluding goalies as I was curious.
 
1. Larson Knights - Kelvin.
off: 89.58 def: 92.17 goal: 93 ovr: 90.96
Average height:
off: 187.58 def:186.83 avg: 187.93
Previous position: 4th, Golden Cup
 
2. Horn Lake Hooligans - Mike Grubb
off:88.75 def: 90.83 goal: 98 ovr: 90.12
Average height:
off: 187.25 def:187.12 avg: 187.22
Previous Position: 3rd
 
3. Hawkeyes Revolution - MProust
off: 88.67 def: 90.83 goal: 91 ovr: 89.8
Average height:
off: 187.5 def: 183.5 avg: 186.17
Previous position: 1st
 
4. Cuba City Eagles - Mare Maro
off: 88.42 def: 89.33 goal: 89 ovr: 88.88
Average height:
off: 185.17 def: 185.83 avg: 185.39
Previous position: 6th
 
5. Montmorency Vortex - ineffableleafs
off: 87.33 def: 89.17 goal: 94 ovr: 88.48
Average Height:
off: 185.67 def: 181.5 avg: 184.28
Previous position: 8th
 
6.Wynward Wildfire - Matthew Bernsten
off: 87.58 def: 89 goal: 88 ovr: 88.28
Average height:
off: 185.5 def: 192 avg: 187.67
Previous position: SHL 1st
 
7. Pinewood Lumberjacks - MattLumberjacks
off: 87.67 def: 88.5 goal: 90 ovr: 88.16
Average height: 
off: 189.58 def: 186.17 avg: 188.44
Previous position: 12th
 
8. Wolfe Wolves - Marcel Cloutier
off: 87.33 def: 88.67 goal: 91 ovr: 88.12
Average height: 
off: 182.42 def: 184.83 avg: 183.22
Previous position: 12th
 
9. Wildwood Violent Rush - Keskustankeisari
off: 86.92 def: 89 goal: 91 ovr: 88.08
Average height:
off: 190.42 def: 180.33 avg: 187.06
Previous position: 5th 
 
10. Urbancrest Comets - Noah High
off:  87.58 def: 87.33 goal: 96 ovr: 87.8
Average height:
off: 186.58 def: 187 avg: 186.72
Previous position: 2nd
 
11/12. Cedar Rapid Panthers - Mauri Nieminen
off: 88.92 def: 85.17 goal: 90 ovr: 87.16
Average height: 
off: 187.75 def: 187.83 avg: 187.78
Previous position: 12th
 
11/12. Sellwood Spirit - Misco Grossi
off: 87.58 def: 87.33 goal: 89 ovr: 87.16
Average height:
off: 191.75 def: 192.17 avg: 191.89
Previous position: 10th
 
13. Molson Monkeys - Nathan Macdonald
off: 86.17 def: 87.83 goal: 90 ovr: 87.12
Average height: 
off: 181.17 def: 180 avg: 180.78
Previous position: SHL 2nd
 
14. Portland Cyclones - Zach Furness
off: 85.83 def: 87 goal: 91 ovr: 86.6
Average height: 
off: 179.67 def: 175.67 avg: 178.33
Previous position: 14th
 
15. Bleinheim Pirates - Martin J.
off: 85.92 def: 85.67 goal: 92 ovr: 86.04
Average height: 
off: 188.92 def: 179.17 avg: 185.67
Previous position: 7th
 
16. Jolly Rattlers - computer
off: 85.83 def: 85.67 goal: 88 ovr: 85.54
Average height: 
off: 186.83 def: 192.17 avg: 188.61
Previous position: 13th
 
League average team overall: 88.025
Leave average team height: 186.03

This is related to the National Teams thread from S11:  http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/8229-s11-national-teams/
 
I figured I would keep this updated in case national teams are ever introduced to the game.  Dibs on Italy.  This is updated for S12.
 

 
 
 
Update for Season 13 below.
 

Hi guys!
 
We are looking into this. Right now we not sure what causing the bug. 
 
Me or Anders will keep you posted!

So to start, I've typed out something similar before in similar suggestion threads but can't seem to find any of them, so I'll just say it again. Also, I've played in the LIHL/IHL many times and have earned promotion many times, so I can kind of understand where you are coming from.
 
The problem with completely reversing the order is that the draft would become 100% useless for the SHL and GHL (BHL would stay at the same spot). The 1st round of the LIHL currently picks players around 60ish overall, if that were to become the GHL 1st round pick, nobody would make the league. No players are really given a chance in the league of "experienced" worlds until they are at least ~82 overall. And none of them will have a fast growth either that might be able to push them to the GHL by 21 -- they all would've been picked before the 1st round of the GHL teams. It's also a potential problem for the LIHL. They'd be getting the best players, but who cares. The league would devolve into a lottery for whoever was luckiest and got the best draft picks. Free agents wouldn't matter because drafted guys would all be at a level far above all of them that they could play the majority of the game and still have their team do well. It is also something the player would not want. If signed, the best players are now making 12k? versus the 500k they would have been making in the GHL. Also, since the competition worse, their own progress will slow down as well, no player would want that. The bad players (now GHL prospects) also wouldn't enjoy at as while they might've got plenty of ice time in the LIHL, they aren't going to even touch a contract in the GHL.
 
I haven't seen your 1st round thing suggested before, but I think it suffers the same problems. LIHL would get a chance at players that would be league-breaking whilst the higher leagues only get one useful pick. The current method is pretty good as it allows all teams to draft a player that can compete in their current league yet allows each team to draft a player that had tons of potential that could be in the next league.
 
 
Anyways, I disagree with the goal of your post -- that teams should be able to lots to offer to higher league teams. If they had guys the league above might want, the teams in the higher league should've signed them first during the off-season. If not, there wouldn't be any difference between the leagues, they'd all have similar talent +/- 1 overall. And if you want to add picks to just trade them to higher leagues, I also think that wouldn't work out. Ignoring that the picks would probably kept for the insanely strong players for a league in the draft, lower tier teams would get a fortune for their high picks that I could see morphing the league winner into whoever got motherload of a return for their pick.

SWEDEN
 
CENTER
 
Liam Sundén - 30 yo - 90 OVR - L (Wolf Pack)
Marcel Holmer - 26 yo - 89 OVR - L (Miners)
Douglas Hansson - 30 yo - 89 OVR - R (Sabercats)
Manne Sjöström - 25 yo - 87 OVR - L (Pegasus)
Gustav Löfström - 27 yo - 83 OVR - L (Tomahawks)
Aaron Sundqvist - 31 yo - 83 OVR - R (Thundering Herd)
 
FORWARD
 
Christoffer Aurelius - 25 yo - 93 OVR - L (White Ice)
Arthur Bratt - 23 yo - 89 OVR - R (Grizzlies)
Gudmund Lundqvist - 33 yo - 89 OVR - L (Pegasus)
Germund Stendlund - 31 yo - 88 OVR - L (Sabercats)
Adolf Ekström - 31 yo - 87 OVR - R (White Ice)
Erik Hodell - 29 yo - 85 OVR - L (Thunder Cats)
Valfrid Heurlin - 23 yo - 85 OVR - L (Admirals)
Tomas Blomqvist - 30 yo - 84 OVR - L (Tomahawks)
Leopold Sahlberg - 29 yo - 83 OVR - L (Senator Kings)
Robin Appelman - 22 yo - 82 OVR - L (Pegasus)
 
DEFENSE
 
Stefan Söderström - 34 yo - 94 OVR - L (Protons)
Bengt Bergström - 34 yo - 93 OVR - L (Stray Cats)
Karl Bengtsson - 37 yo - 90 OVR - R (Mohawks)
Eddie Cederborg - 27 yo - 89 OVR - L (Tomahawks)
Oscar Svart - 28 yo - 88 OVR - L (White Ice)
Adam Sommelius - 31 yo - 88 OVR - R (Vandals)
 
GOALIE
 
Valle Carleman - 22 yo - 84 OVR - R (Elite)
Jonathan Södergren - 24 yo - 84 OVR - L (Volcano)
Malte Björkgren - 21 yo - 77 OVR - L (Panthers)

RUSSIA
 
CENTER
 
Vitaly Karnaukhov - 34 yo - 90 OVR - L (Pegasus)
Andrey Lyubov - 32 yo - 86 OVR - L (Rebels)
Nikolay Markin - 33 yo - 85 OVR - L (Minutemen)
Dmitri Aleyev - 19 yo - 84 OVR - L (Protons)
Manolis Torchinovich - 18 yo - 84 OVR - L (Dynasty Heroes)
Rushan Lapunov - 28 yo - 83 OVR - L (Volcano)
 
 
FORWARD
 
Alexander Ryzhanov - 29 yo - 93 OVR - L (White Ice)
Sergey Vetrov - 29 yo - 87 OVR - R (Stray Cats)
Yegor Savvin - 22 yo - 86 OVR - R (Bulldogs)
Alexey Grinin - 22 yo - 85 OVR - L (Victors)
Dmitry Sayansky - 29 yo - 85 OVR - R (Dynasty Heroes)
Michael Norin - 32 yo - 85 OVR - L (Trojans)
Roman Kholodov - 31 yo - 83 OVR - L (Pegasus)
Edgar Alexandrov - 26 yo - 82 OVR - R (Mohawks)
Dmitry Reshetnikov - 21 yo - 82 OVR - R (Panthers)
Yegor Torchinovich - 19 yo - 82 OVR - L (Aristocrats)
 
DEFENSE
 
Nikolay Mandrykin - 27 yo - 93 OVR - L (Sabercats)
Sergey Maksudov - 29 yo - 92 OVR - L (Rebels)
Denis Dubov - 33 yo - 92 OVR - L (Volcano)
Alexey Filchenkov - 35 yo - 89 OVR - R (Rebels)
Artem Sultanov - 24 yo - 86 OVR - R (Admirals)
Anton Bortsov - 24 yo - 86 OVR - L (Breakouts)
 
GOALIE
 
Olexandr Duranichev - 37 yo - 87 OVR - L (Thunder Cats)
Ivan Kopsov - 24 yo - 86 OVR - L (Admirals)
Andreas Zhutov - 21 yo - 85 OVR - L (Stray Cats)

In my opinion once you go above a certain salary a 2 way contract should be unavailable to offer. I find it ridiculous that a 2 million dollar GHL contract can be sent down when very few players that are worth that 2 million dollar contract are not GHL quality players. I did predict player hoarding would happen.

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,3
 
2. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 89,8
 
3. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 89,7
 
4. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,7
 
5. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 89,5
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 87 DEF: 91 SG: 90 OVR: 89,4
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 87 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 88,7
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 87 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 88,7
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 91 OVR: 88,7
 
10. Pascoag White Ice (Computer)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,3
 
11. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,3
 
12. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 88 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 88,2
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 88 SG: 92 OVR: 87,8
 
14. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 94 OVR: 86,9
 
15. Cuba City Tomahawks (Benoit Desvignes)
OFF: 84 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 86,5
 
16. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 85 DEF: 87 SG: 94 OVR: 86,2
 
 
Calculated on day 3 of S12, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)

1. West Chicago Protons (Richard "bouncer" Feynman)
OFF: 89 DEF: 93 SG: 96 OVR: 91,3
 
2. Deadwood Vandals (Kim "koekefix" Vandaele)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 95 OVR: 89,8
 
3. Canmore Grizzlies (Matt "themattinthehat" Muffett)
OFF: 88 DEF: 91 SG: 92 OVR: 89,7
 
4. Portland Marauders (Xavier "xZhou" Zhou)
OFF: 89 DEF: 90 SG: 92 OVR: 89,7
 
5. Harrisonville Sabercats (Hurja "HurjaHerra" Herra)
OFF: 89 DEF: 89 SG: 95 OVR: 89,5
 
6. Richford Rebels (Jusu "Jusu5" Manager)
OFF: 87 DEF: 91 SG: 90 OVR: 89,4
 
7. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (Richard "rainsilent" Armour)
OFF: 87 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 88,7
 
8. Eldred Elite (Steven "sbb11578" Bennett)
OFF: 87 DEF: 90 SG: 93 OVR: 88,7
 
9. St. Thomas Stray Cats (Erzac "Erzac" Ray)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 91 OVR: 88,7
 
10. Pascoag White Ice (Computer)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 92 OVR: 88,3
 
11. Violet Volcano (Soupy Salez)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,3
 
12. Thetford Mines Pegasus (Anthony "Pingu" Grauwels)
OFF: 88 DEF: 87 SG: 95 OVR: 88,2
 
13. York Wolf Pack (Jiri "jiihee" Heikkala)
OFF: 88 DEF: 88 SG: 92 OVR: 87,8
 
14. Pinehurst Miners (Phoenix "phoenixtf" TF)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 94 OVR: 86,9
 
15. Cuba City Tomahawks (Benoit Desvignes)
OFF: 84 DEF: 88 SG: 90 OVR: 86,5
 
16. Natashquan Mohawks (Brutality "BFGore" Fullgore)
OFF: 85 DEF: 87 SG: 94 OVR: 86,2
 
 
Calculated on day 3 of S12, using:
 
Team OVR = (OFF + (DEF x 2) + (SG x 2))/26
 
where
OFF = Combined overall of 12 best centers/forwards
DEF = Combined overall of 6 best defenders
SG = Overall of starting goalie (best overall goalie in team)