MattBerserkers

Yes, but not everyone wants to break out the hand calculator and do the math. I mean if this will save 30s per player when a person is checking out a bunch of different possibilities, why not have it? Plus it's not uncommon for people to guess the promotion salary and then massively underestimate the reality.

I both play fishbowl and lumber right now, so I am experiencing both ends of the speed spectrum.

My lumber team just had my top forward taken out for a few games in this situation, which is where my complaint/suggestion is coming from. I'd rather not risk my top players to injury and while I could switch them out myself, I can't do that if I am sleeping.

By certain playoff games, I mean game 3 of a series after one team has already won 2 of the games. The series is already decided, so why should I as a manager be risking players to injuries for a pointless game if it will only hurt me in later rounds of the playoffs? Especially if I am aiming for promotion and have to play some relegation teams that have just had a chance to rest and heal their roster.

The all green players thing was a concern of mine as well, although if you check current teams, the are many computer and human managers that have signed players with red traits so I don't think the effect would be too drastic. Also, the green players already exist in the game so if people only want to sign those types of players, they already can. For your second point, I used to think the same idea as I thought it would make sense that a player would want to play anywhere rather than sit a year. However, if you consider that every league would slowly be getting better and better, then after 20-30 seasons or less I definitely think that the talent would be so outspread that LIHL teams would be signing players from the same pool of free agents as the GHL. The way to prevent that would be to have a cap somewhere that prevents players from joining far below their skill which is pretty much the system in place now.

Okay, so my idea is not quite as exaggerated as my title suggests, but it is still a suggestion to reduce the number of active players in the game. My idea is simply that players above a certain age (25?) who remain unsigned after a full season have a chance that they decide that it is time to hang up their skates and retire from hockey. And the chance that they decide to retire early goes up with the number of consecutive seasons without being on a team. This chance would be added to however you have it set up with age now. Because I've been doing a lot of math today, here's a formula for how I am imagining it would work : if Age >= 25 and #SeasonsNoTeam > 0 (%Chance)=((#SeasonsNoTeam)^2 * 2.5%) I think the 2.5% is fair because a player would still have the determination to succeed after only missing a single season and therefore a low chance of deciding to retire early, however, a player missing 6 seasons would be pretty sure that his career is over (having a 90% to retire with the equation) and a player who missed 7 seasons in a row would definitely decide to retire early. Also, remember that they should be added to whatever formulas you already have involving so an older player missing a few seasons would also be pretty much guaranteed to retire a bit earlier. This idea stems from the fact that at the end of the season in Lumber there are currently 4883 free agents and a good portion of them are unlikely to ever get a contract offer. For a slower world, there are currently 2908 free agents in Fishbowl. I think it would also help with the oversaturation of players that we see in a lot of leagues as there will be fewer players available. It might also help keep the game running faster if the unused players are putting any strain on the server. So what do you guys think?

You are correct in thinking that their salaries will increase even with the extended contract if you give them promotion clauses and know that you will definitely be promoted. And you will lose your players to free agency before you are actually promoted to the next league. As for whether you should sign your players now or later, I find that it really depends because I do find that their salary demands lessen. If the player would be highly desirable in the next league (young player with good stats or star player), you will probably want to extend him early as there is a good chance that another team will go after him. If the player is most likely to be average or a role player in the next league, let him fall into free agency before resigning him and you will probably get him for less while only risking a replaceable player.

For the first ever player of the day, I have decided to nominate the first player drafted in the Fishbowl universe, Jeffrey Richardson. http://www.gameplanhockey.com/player?gpid=34572 Drafted: 1st overall, season 4 Drafted by: New Hartford Rangers Current Team: Larson Knights Age: 21 Height: 6'4" Weight: 214lbs Shoots: Left For his only minor league year, Jeffrey played 37 games for the Regina Condors in the CAJHL and posted an incredible 97 points, including 71 points (a career high) and 26 assists. His ridiculous amount of goals earned him both CAJHL goal scorer of the year and point getter of the year. After going first overall to the New Hartford Rangers, he immediately signed with the team in hopes of elevating the recently promoted Rangers and win the Golden Cup. Unfortunately, the season did not go as planned and Jeffrey played abysmally and Rangers remained near the bottom of the league. In a last ditch effort to avoid relegation, Richardson was traded to the league leaders Larson Knights in return for a few average players in their prime. The trade failed and the Rangers went on to be demoted in the SHL where they are still currently playing today. For his first season in the GHL, he posted 13 points in 47 games for the Rangers and 5 points in 4 games for the Knights. Over the next few seasons, his play has been improving and in season 6, lifted the Golden Cup with the Knights. In season 7, Richardson put up his GHL career high 54 points in 52 games. He also extended his contract to an astonishing contract of 3.2mil for 10 seasons. Currently, in season 8, Richardson has posted 46 points in 38 games putting him 2nd in the scoring race, 3 points behind 1st. *note: I doubt that I will actually do this every day, If you have an interesting player, please post about him for me.

My injuries are finally starting to clear up, only my top goal scorer is out and for only one more game. It's been a tough couple weeks but I have survived, am still in the playoffs and only 9 points away from 2nd place. If I don't claim the 2nd promotion spot, I am sure that I can take any of the GHL teams near the relegation playoff spot excluding the Sellwood Spirits. However, it is the second half of the season and I am considering selling off a few players so that I may have a stronger push next season. I already made a couple offers to sell some of my players but I am likely to take them down if I can see that my team starts getting back on track.

Okay, I'm gonna deflect this argument to two places before we have two big threads arguing about trade abuse. The first is the trade abuse thread here http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7447-trade-abuse/page-5so that this thread can once again be a salty therapy thread The second was my suggestion on this page http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7457-ai-trade-values/ on my second post where I suggested that so many assets can only be traded for so many assets, I feel like that idea alone will stop the majority of what people consider abusive trades as they are usually a number thing. As for my opinion on this case, I believe all human-human trades should be considered fair game unless it is blatant cheating (multiple accounts).

Injuries strike again causing me to now be out my top 3 players and more! I'm glad I grabbed so many back-up players this season because I am needing them all. Hopefully, after today my bad injury luck will turn around and I will be able to ice the team that I want.

Man, injuries are starting to hit me hard, I might fall out competition for spot #2 if I don't start getting better luck. Although, I don't think that I will be thrown out of playoffs.

I find most my prospects find a team by around day 20. Although the odd prospect can remain teamless until late season which I find a bit odd.

I tend also always keep training on hard and like to give my lines 25-25-25-25 min of ice time. I find it keeps everybody fresh while giving everybody enough ice time to always be improving. The exception is if I have a line that is that much better or worse than my other lines, then I will probably give it a little bit more/less ice time. For training, my preference is to train offensive players in either offense or else general; defensive players in either defense or else general, and two-way players in anything. I prefer to keep two-way players rounded, while for offensive/defensive players I think "Are his offensive/defensive stats similar or behind his general stats? If yes, then I set his training to offense/defense. If I decide his offense/defense is far above his general stats, I set the player to general training so that he can up his game in other areas.

Yea, that makes sense. Another idea that I was thinking of was that because some teams are only a win or two away from playoffs, the unwillingness to trade picks could extend out an extra 3-6 points. it could also work similarly for teams relatively close to the relegation playoffs.

Yea, that's part of why in my first post I had the suggestion that AI are unwilling to deal away their picks if they are in the top 6 of a league. AI in the GHL top 6 could probably be an exception. The other suggestion mentioned that would help would be the two coming from the other thread where AI teams can't trade any picks/prospects or else can't trade 1st round picks/prospects.

I also notice a bunch of trades where there are a bunch of players going one way and only a pick or single player in return. Perhaps the AI could reject sending/receiving assets that send/receive a difference in assets of more than 3 (awkward phrasing.) EA: 1 asset leaving and 3 assets coming back = acceptable 2 assets leaving and 4 coming back = acceptable 1 asset leaving and 4 assets coming back = unacceptable 2 assets leaving and 5 assets coming back = unacceptable. This would allow for some weirder trades involving human managers to still go through, but really limit the exploitation that can be done to AI.

I was thinking that maybe we should start a discussion to help give Anders ideas for whenever he has time to readdress and fix trading with AI. I would have started this discussion in that trade abuse thread, however, that thread has become a bit toxic. Please do not argue who is wrong and who is right in this thread as I wish to stay on topic. And don't call anyone a hypocrite for their suggestions because the people who manipulate the current system probably know best what should be changed to make trading fairer. *note: In this thread, we should assume that trading with AI will continue to be allowed. Suggestions I recall from the trade abuse thread: - AI is unable to trade picks/prospects - AI is unable to trade 1st round picks/players until they hit 21. My ideas: -AI in the bottom 6 are unwilling to acquire 1-way contracts (We might soon be relegated and are unwilling to acquire 1-way players that we might soon lose.) -AI in the Top 6 are unwilling to trade away any picks (We are in a playoff spot and do not wish to trade away our picks because they might soon become a lot better.) -AI are unwilling to acquire players with 1 year remaining on their contract after day 50 (It's almost the end of the season and we do not want to trade away our long term team chemistry for something short term.) These are the suggestions coming from the top of my head, I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks as well.

Playoffs are the same world to world. The only oddball playoffs would be the "promotion" playoffs in the GHL where the teams are instead competing for the championship. To start, teams who finish 1-2 are automatically promoted to the higher league, one league closer to be able to compete for the GHL championship. Teams 15 and 16 are automatically relegated because they were not good enough to be competing in their current division. The promotion playoffs, which are for teams 3-6, are for teams who probably just barely missed out on a chance for promotion and would probably be able to compete fairly well in the next division. To make it fair with how the teams finished, team 3 plays team 6 and team 4 plays team 5. They play 3 full games (with a decided winner each time) and then the two teams that win get to play the two relegating teams for a chance to earn promotion. The relegating teams (teams 13-14) are just competing to keep their spot in their current division whereas the promotion playoff teams are competing to take their spots. The teams that do not play any playoffs did not perform well enough in the season to be considered potentially good enough to play in the higher division, but at the same time, too good to be playing in the tier below. Hope this helps.

I disagree with you Haradrim that no players are untouchable. Think Edmonton is gonna move Connor Mcdavid? For Edmonton to consider anything, the cost would likely be too high for any other team to really consider it. However, if you really want an untouchable player, it's still possible to open up trade talks by sending the other gm a message. I've acquired a couple "untouchable" players over the seasons using this method. I like the option because it really prevents others from wasting my time with bad offers which is the main reason I support Ineffables suggestion to allow draft picks/prospects have the untouchable option. I would also support disallowing CPU teams to both trade away and acquire 1st round picks. Although I don't think it would at all be necessary to block the movement of CPU 2nd and 3rd round picks, they rarely seemed to be involved with anything season changing.

I guess the first gm game I played was the gm mode within the EA NHL games. I favored the mode because I always found it more fun to be playing a team of my own creation rather than the teams that some real gm has assembled. Eventually, I wanted a game with more depth and decided upon the recently released football manager game. The toughest part was probably the fact that I hardly knew nothing about football/soccer and therefore had to learn the strategies and desired players. I enjoyed it enough that eventually, I bought a few other gm games such as EHM, OOTP and that Euro Truck simulator game (does that count?) However, more recently I've acquired more priorities business in my life and as a result was looking for a smore simple game. Eventually I found gameplanhockey through a reddit comment on /r/hockey and have been pretty satisfied since.

You've got a pretty good team that can even withstand a bunch of injuries, so I think you will get a promotion whether through placing top 2 or winning a playoff series. You've only had 1 3 game losing streak, which in my opinion is common even for top teams, and have since won your last game. My only recommendations would be to swap out Ostlund to a guy with better leadership in order to get your team's teamwork to harmony and to make sure you rotate your goalies when they are tired so that they perform better. edit: Teamwork might also improve if you make Purcell the captain over Luby and it should also aid in not underestimating your opponents during a game.

I was wondering if the game could show whether a manager is active outside of just to team->team info or trading section. My idea would be to show an orange dot in the standings rather for vacationing managers rather than the blue dot. It would be a minor change, however, it would save people 2 seconds.

Yes... My negotiation skill... I'm glad that glitch is fixed (I think) and Tal Lowe is only playing on my 4th line because it's where he fits best. Although, getting to keep him is a major plus for me. Everything else about this season has been a pleasant surprise for me. At the start of the season, I thought that our goalie situations would actually be switched around and that I would have struggling goaltending and that you would have an amazing tandem. I thought this would just be a development season for Konchesky. I think you will finish top 2 for sure, especially because you have 1.5mil of cap space which could be used on another stud goaltender that hopefully actually performs. My guess is that without any major injuries the end of the season will look like: 1. Montemorency Vortex 2. Pinewood Lumberjacks 3. Merrick Thunder 4. Portland Cyclones 5. Yonker Vixens Although, I bet at least 1 of us will fall.

edit* Season 8, my finger slipped.... We seem to have the least active forum page so I thought that I might start something. It seems we have a really close competition for the top of the Silver hockey league. After 10 games, the top 5 teams are all within 2 points of one another and a couple other teams are 1 win away from being in the same position. After 50 more games, who do you guys think will finish top 2, who do you guys think will have a big streak of bad luck and fall behind?