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Would have done it for bottom too, but it wasnt possible to make it from worst to the best with those stats.
And yes there are too many things that effects to goalies and everything else. Best way is trial and error and make your own conclusion what works and what you think made that good result.

Some reasearch about goalies based pretty much on statistics, attributes and traits (mostly big games). Its done from both GHL and CHL top 5 goalies on sace percentage and performance. Only goalies with minimum of 20 games played were included. After name first big games trait and then side notes if something catches eye. 
 
Decided to take CHL along with GHL because its easier to spot differences on attributes and unbalances inside overalls.
 
GHL 
 
SV%
 
1.M.Argall(87ovr) (Bulldogs) 93,4% 
Stable
30yo so experienced. Not the biggest goalie around with 175cm and 74kg. Low endurance(44) and athletic(76)
 
2. K.Cutter(94ovr) (Prairie Stars) 92,7% Stable
Played in best regular season team in whole league. 3rd most games in league(73).
 
3. O.Lång(91ovr) (Minuteman) 92,7% Nervous
Best regular season team in East. Medicore positioning(82) and athletic(84).
 
4. M.Twitty(92ovr) (Steelers) 92,6% Stable
Low endurance(66), but still clear 1st G with 57 gp.
 
5. N.Gut(91ovr) (Duhawks) 92,4% Anxious
Low spirit(68) but experienced 35yo.
 
 
Performance
 
 
1. M.Twitty(92ovr) (Steelers) 77 Perf Stable
Low endurance(66), but still clear 1st G with 57 gp.
 
2. N.Gut(91ovr) (Duhawks) 77 Perf Anxious
Low spirit(68) but experienced 35yo.
 
3. K.Cutter(94ovr) (Prairie Stars) 76 Per Stable
Played in best regular season team in whole league. 3rd most games in league(73).
 
4. O.Lång(91ovr) (Minuteman) 76 Perf Nervous
Best regular season team in East. Medicore positioning(82) and athletic(84).
 
5. K.Havard(87ovr) (Elite) 76 Perf Stable
31yo and good overall traits. Right handed goalie with low endurance(66) and clearly best attribute reflexes(97) and spirit (99). Goalie on team that was on relegation playoffs (W)
 
6. A.Jaillet(88ovr) (Battlin Bears) 76 Per Heroic
Low endurance(54) and spirit(55). Slightly bigger goalie at 195cm and 97kg
 
 
CHL
 
SV%
 
1. F.Bayliss(72ovr) (Ghosts) 92,5% Anxious
Only 21yo but big goalie 203cm 108kg. Played on clearly best team of league. Good reflexes and athletic. 2nd G of team.
 
2. E. Hanley(68ovr) (Aces) 92,4% Determined
35yo and pretty big 195cm 103kg. Spirit (95) is by far his best skill with secondly following puckhandling(79). Good overall traits. Played on lower bracket team.
 
3. L. Corner(74ovr) (Ghosts) 91,9% Anxious
Reflexes are only rating on green. Again 1st G of best team of the league.
 
4. E. Hagberg(65ovr) (Firebirds) 91,9% Nervous
Low overall with bad spirit(52) and reflexes(60). Otherwise balanced. Team RELEGATED to IHL.
 
5. J.Gullet(75ovr) (Yale men) 91,2% Heroic
Very strongly weighted in athletic(85), spirit(99) and endurance(95)
 
 
Performance
 
1. E.Hanley(68ovr) (Aces) 75 Perf Determined
35yo and pretty big 195cm 103kg. Spirit (95) is by far his best skill with secondly following puckhandling(79). Good overall traits. Played on lower bracket team.
 
2. L. Corner(74ovr) (Ghosts) 74 Perf Anxious
Reflexes are only rating on green. Again 1st G of best team of the league.
 
3. F.Bayliss(72ovr) (Ghosts) 74 Perf Anxious
Only 21yo but big goalie 203cm 108kg. Played on clearly best team of league. Good reflexes and athletic. 2nd G of team.
 
4. E. Hagberg(65ovr) (Firebirds) 73 Perf Nervous
Low overall with bad spirit(52) and reflexes(60). Otherwise balanced. Team RELEGATED to IHL.
 
5. A.Arvizu(75ovr) (Gorillas) 72 Perf Anxious 
Strong overall and reflexes/spirit to CHL.
 
 
Well its rather difficult to make conclusion only from goalies, because usually team succes had great influences to both stats in both leagues. From big games trait there wasnt any indication that would support it has massive influence. But this is regular season only so you should approach this strongly that in mind. For example Lång did clearly underperform his regular season sv% (-2,3%) and performance (-4) and he is nervous. When in the otherhand Battlin Bears goalie Jaillet (heroic) came only bit short from his regular season stats in playoffs.
 
Overall wasnt clearly the biggest factor but still from this we cant compare them because more important is what ovr keeps inside it. In CHL there were 10ovr differences on top 5.
 
Still this is very raw reasearch with very few data and from only one season. Still my own experiences have been every season that goalies with best minor things and good traits has outoerformed overall and even reflexes/positioning/athletic. Biggest factors for good results has been size and big games trait. But its only one managers coclusion.
 
I also believe there could be something that supports players streakiness like there are potential and greed. 
 
For sure goalies are very much different creatures so any experiences that could support anything are usefull

Yeap and this analysis is very thin so it probably has many leaks  personal preferences and trials are still probably the best diameters.

Some reasearch about goalies based pretty much on statistics, attributes and traits (mostly big games). Its done from both GHL and CHL top 5 goalies on sace percentage and performance. Only goalies with minimum of 20 games played were included. After name first big games trait and then side notes if something catches eye. 
 
Decided to take CHL along with GHL because its easier to spot differences on attributes and unbalances inside overalls.
 
GHL 
 
SV%
 
1.M.Argall(87ovr) (Bulldogs) 93,4% 
Stable
30yo so experienced. Not the biggest goalie around with 175cm and 74kg. Low endurance(44) and athletic(76)
 
2. K.Cutter(94ovr) (Prairie Stars) 92,7% Stable
Played in best regular season team in whole league. 3rd most games in league(73).
 
3. O.Lång(91ovr) (Minuteman) 92,7% Nervous
Best regular season team in East. Medicore positioning(82) and athletic(84).
 
4. M.Twitty(92ovr) (Steelers) 92,6% Stable
Low endurance(66), but still clear 1st G with 57 gp.
 
5. N.Gut(91ovr) (Duhawks) 92,4% Anxious
Low spirit(68) but experienced 35yo.
 
 
Performance
 
 
1. M.Twitty(92ovr) (Steelers) 77 Perf Stable
Low endurance(66), but still clear 1st G with 57 gp.
 
2. N.Gut(91ovr) (Duhawks) 77 Perf Anxious
Low spirit(68) but experienced 35yo.
 
3. K.Cutter(94ovr) (Prairie Stars) 76 Per Stable
Played in best regular season team in whole league. 3rd most games in league(73).
 
4. O.Lång(91ovr) (Minuteman) 76 Perf Nervous
Best regular season team in East. Medicore positioning(82) and athletic(84).
 
5. K.Havard(87ovr) (Elite) 76 Perf Stable
31yo and good overall traits. Right handed goalie with low endurance(66) and clearly best attribute reflexes(97) and spirit (99). Goalie on team that was on relegation playoffs (W)
 
6. A.Jaillet(88ovr) (Battlin Bears) 76 Per Heroic
Low endurance(54) and spirit(55). Slightly bigger goalie at 195cm and 97kg
 
 
CHL
 
SV%
 
1. F.Bayliss(72ovr) (Ghosts) 92,5% Anxious
Only 21yo but big goalie 203cm 108kg. Played on clearly best team of league. Good reflexes and athletic. 2nd G of team.
 
2. E. Hanley(68ovr) (Aces) 92,4% Determined
35yo and pretty big 195cm 103kg. Spirit (95) is by far his best skill with secondly following puckhandling(79). Good overall traits. Played on lower bracket team.
 
3. L. Corner(74ovr) (Ghosts) 91,9% Anxious
Reflexes are only rating on green. Again 1st G of best team of the league.
 
4. E. Hagberg(65ovr) (Firebirds) 91,9% Nervous
Low overall with bad spirit(52) and reflexes(60). Otherwise balanced. Team RELEGATED to IHL.
 
5. J.Gullet(75ovr) (Yale men) 91,2% Heroic
Very strongly weighted in athletic(85), spirit(99) and endurance(95)
 
 
Performance
 
1. E.Hanley(68ovr) (Aces) 75 Perf Determined
35yo and pretty big 195cm 103kg. Spirit (95) is by far his best skill with secondly following puckhandling(79). Good overall traits. Played on lower bracket team.
 
2. L. Corner(74ovr) (Ghosts) 74 Perf Anxious
Reflexes are only rating on green. Again 1st G of best team of the league.
 
3. F.Bayliss(72ovr) (Ghosts) 74 Perf Anxious
Only 21yo but big goalie 203cm 108kg. Played on clearly best team of league. Good reflexes and athletic. 2nd G of team.
 
4. E. Hagberg(65ovr) (Firebirds) 73 Perf Nervous
Low overall with bad spirit(52) and reflexes(60). Otherwise balanced. Team RELEGATED to IHL.
 
5. A.Arvizu(75ovr) (Gorillas) 72 Perf Anxious 
Strong overall and reflexes/spirit to CHL.
 
 
Well its rather difficult to make conclusion only from goalies, because usually team succes had great influences to both stats in both leagues. From big games trait there wasnt any indication that would support it has massive influence. But this is regular season only so you should approach this strongly that in mind. For example Lång did clearly underperform his regular season sv% (-2,3%) and performance (-4) and he is nervous. When in the otherhand Battlin Bears goalie Jaillet (heroic) came only bit short from his regular season stats in playoffs.
 
Overall wasnt clearly the biggest factor but still from this we cant compare them because more important is what ovr keeps inside it. In CHL there were 10ovr differences on top 5.
 
Still this is very raw reasearch with very few data and from only one season. Still my own experiences have been every season that goalies with best minor things and good traits has outoerformed overall and even reflexes/positioning/athletic. Biggest factors for good results has been size and big games trait. But its only one managers coclusion.
 
I also believe there could be something that supports players streakiness like there are potential and greed. 
 
For sure goalies are very much different creatures so any experiences that could support anything are usefull

Shortly after I wrote the initial post I did some research between teams who had Heroic WI and teams that had bad or just OK WI.... and.... I couldn't find anything that would solve the mystery.  Over the last week I acquired 3 players.  There was nothing special trait-wise about these players, but it has increased my WI to Heroic and subsequently knocked my Teamwork down a few rungs, although still Harmony.  So.... I still have no idea.
What I do know is that the two teams facing off in the S3 GHL Finals do not have Heroic WI.  One is just OK and the other is Strong, but seems to border more on OK than Heroic.  I'm sure WI has an impact, but it seems like having talented players has the most impact on winning and losing.

Its hard to even answer as good thread as this is. I have kept reading this post many times and wondering things around this topic. Thanks for Paul using so much time for this good thread, very good job!
Every season i have had WI on green, so I cant compare really from season to season this. One thing I could raise above others from my experiences is goalies big games. For me clearly better goalie on paper has been always worse option than the ”worse” one with with good big games and traits overall. Also spirit can have positive effect on this but that is only speculation.
Few other points I have given value, but again this is only my opinion to things and only thing that supports it is very good WI and ok team succes.
- Captains have very large impact to winner instinct so not only the leadership but the whole profile and spirit is valuable.
- Continue for latest. Is your captain more commander or true leader? How about other captains? Other players? Does they match? Difficult to make perfectly when building team but might be big factor.
-Older players are important and could effect more with good traits and also reputation
- Profile and big games of your star players
 
Some mumbling from my experiences. You should approach this as a reasearch as there are not many season yet exprienced this.
 
 

Its hard to even answer as good thread as this is. I have kept reading this post many times and wondering things around this topic. Thanks for Paul using so much time for this good thread, very good job!
Every season i have had WI on green, so I cant compare really from season to season this. One thing I could raise above others from my experiences is goalies big games. For me clearly better goalie on paper has been always worse option than the ”worse” one with with good big games and traits overall. Also spirit can have positive effect on this but that is only speculation.
Few other points I have given value, but again this is only my opinion to things and only thing that supports it is very good WI and ok team succes.
- Captains have very large impact to winner instinct so not only the leadership but the whole profile and spirit is valuable.
- Continue for latest. Is your captain more commander or true leader? How about other captains? Other players? Does they match? Difficult to make perfectly when building team but might be big factor.
-Older players are important and could effect more with good traits and also reputation
- Profile and big games of your star players
 
Some mumbling from my experiences. You should approach this as a reasearch as there are not many season yet exprienced this.
 
 

Great job rain! Will definetly follow playoff in GHL!

If there's one thing that is a complete mystery in GPHM it is how to raise your team's Winner Instinct (WI).  Although I thoroughly enjoy the fact that the Admins have only shared a fraction of the information, leaving managers to figure it out for themselves... I also enjoy the conversations it creates - so why not try to crack the code together... or use the information contained here to crack the code on your own and keep it to yourself 😜
I feel like getting this value perfect is like piecing together a puzzle.  There are many factors and you need the perfect balance of those factors, including: Big Games trait, Ego Trait, Team Captains, Reputation of Players & Certain attributes of players. 
 
Below are the "official" notes from the Help Files.
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/10834-team-spirit-done/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/10844-roster-captains-and-lineup-done/
 
Here's what I gather from the two links above:
- WI is mostly impacted by the Big Games trait.  You need quite a bit of Heroic/Determined players, but not too many as it will create disputes within your team.  You will also need some Anxious/Nervous, but not too many.
- In line with the above, you also need some Arrogant/Cocky players to boost your WI, but too many will negatively impact your Teamwork.
- Team Captains have a large influence on WI.  From other help files, it is known that Player Reputation and the Spirit Attribute factor into the Captains influence on a team, so if your Captains have a larger influence on your WI, then those values may also have an impact on your team's WI.
 
Other personal observations, related to the above:
- I always struggled with WI (couldn't get it above a blue rating) as I mostly focused on Teamwork being Harmony (Friendly/Compassionate players).  It wasn't until I acquired some Arrogant & Cocky players that my WI rose to a green rating. (Others have shared this opinion - see links below).
- When I have more Stars (players with higher reputation) on my team, my WI is higher.
 
Below are some other links to various conversations around WI that have been created over time.  As you can see... if you are confused about this rating, you are not alone!  There are some interesting opinions in these threads, so if you are truly interesting in this topic, be prepared to do some reading.
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7564-q-about-winner-instinct/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7400-teamwork-winner-instinct/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/9702-improve-winning-instinct/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7242-winners-instinct/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/10669-trait-preference/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7461-winner-insticnt/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/8247-traits/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/7957-team-spirit/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/9702-improve-winning-instinct/
http://forums.gmgames.org/topic/8759-so-nervous-i-peed-a-little/
 
Below are a few opinions from the link above that stood out to me.  I can't confirm whether they are true or not.  They could be 100% correct or way off.
- Captains with Heroic or Determined Big Games trait increase WI.
- Only players in the immediate lineup impact WI, not affiliate or scratched players.  In another thread, the exact opposite was also stated.
- Big Games of Goalies factor more than Skaters.
- Don't worry about WI at all.  It is not required to be successful.
- WI is established over time as players get to know each other.
- Big games is overrated.  An Anxious/Nervous player can be just as clutch as a Heroic/Determined player.
- Line placement matters (i.e. 1st line players impact more than 2nd line and so on).
 
Personally, the questions I keep asking are "when does WI come into play?" and "how much does it even impact gameplay?".  I have seen nervous goalies play lights out in the playoffs and win it all.  I have also seen team's with Heroic WI get relegated.  But I am sure the opposite happens much more, so it is yet to be known exactly how much this rating matters overall.  As with most things in this game, it is chance based, so I'm sure it does have an impact.  Managers just need to figure out for themselves how much emphasis to put on getting the perfect team chemistry.
Enjoy.
 

For number 2)
 
I think its right when those who are more willing to scout get the price for it BUT it really could have more tools. Maybe opinion to search players by certain skill rating range? Like on fa market.
 
 
For number 4)
 
Should be there and could also add 5vs3 lines and 3vs5 lines?
 
 
Few suggestions more without big explanarions:
 
-Visual line chemistry (should reward long term lines, so you get reward for keeping same players and lines even several seasons)
 
-National teams and maybe even best managers from previous seasons could go to manage them for a season and highlight being world cup
 
-option to compare two players by ratings and profile
 
-individual stats leaders for 18-21yo players
 
-historical games between two teams (adding some rivarly)
 
-historical top 20 stats on certain league and also in your team
 
-play-by-play live feed. Dont know if its essy to code but would make evening even more thrilling
 
-maybe U21 national teans too
 
-option to keep opponents specific player under extra focus

Up. Probably happened to suomyyrä today too.

This took some time to understand but have now happened twice for me and once for my friend so it was easy to make the conclusion. Pretty important to fix because all managers maybe are not fair and admit this if this happens.

In some rare cases when you sen counter offer to other managers trade offer, it comes to you to accept. So actually you can accept your own counter offer to other manager.

For number 2)
 
I think its right when those who are more willing to scout get the price for it BUT it really could have more tools. Maybe opinion to search players by certain skill rating range? Like on fa market.
 
 
For number 4)
 
Should be there and could also add 5vs3 lines and 3vs5 lines?
 
 
Few suggestions more without big explanarions:
 
-Visual line chemistry (should reward long term lines, so you get reward for keeping same players and lines even several seasons)
 
-National teams and maybe even best managers from previous seasons could go to manage them for a season and highlight being world cup
 
-option to compare two players by ratings and profile
 
-individual stats leaders for 18-21yo players
 
-historical games between two teams (adding some rivarly)
 
-historical top 20 stats on certain league and also in your team
 
-play-by-play live feed. Dont know if its essy to code but would make evening even more thrilling
 
-maybe U21 national teans too
 
-option to keep opponents specific player under extra focus

For number 2)
 
I think its right when those who are more willing to scout get the price for it BUT it really could have more tools. Maybe opinion to search players by certain skill rating range? Like on fa market.
 
 
For number 4)
 
Should be there and could also add 5vs3 lines and 3vs5 lines?
 
 
Few suggestions more without big explanarions:
 
-Visual line chemistry (should reward long term lines, so you get reward for keeping same players and lines even several seasons)
 
-National teams and maybe even best managers from previous seasons could go to manage them for a season and highlight being world cup
 
-option to compare two players by ratings and profile
 
-individual stats leaders for 18-21yo players
 
-historical games between two teams (adding some rivarly)
 
-historical top 20 stats on certain league and also in your team
 
-play-by-play live feed. Dont know if its essy to code but would make evening even more thrilling
 
-maybe U21 national teans too
 
-option to keep opponents specific player under extra focus

To suggestions, they would both be very good for game. Also marking spesific opponent player or play specific line against opponent line would be nice!

Everything you suggested would be good. Also best players in differents stats in your team would be cool too!

Team average ages on league page, average salaries. Own stats pages on league to defensemen and U21 players.

Maybe option to home team match lines when possible and/or both team could give extra protection to opponents player with some downside?
 
Linechemistry? Maybe even after long break players that have played together will benefit from it?

Maybe option to home team match lines when possible and/or both team could give extra protection to opponents player with some downside?
 
Linechemistry? Maybe even after long break players that have played together will benefit from it?

How about the ability to hire coaches and training staff? Maybe even scouting staff?
This game has so much potential I love it.

Im rather new in gameplanhockey, but not in gm games general. This game has by far most potential from all i have played. I have few suggestions that i think would make this game better.
 
1) Games could be spectaded live. Maybe watching play-by-play instead straight knowing the score? So simulating the one play-by-play. That would make game much more thrilling to watch. Cant imagine the mind in GHL playoff final spectating overtime play-by-play live!
 
2) Trophies after refular season and playoffs too. More the better, both team and player based.
 
3)Stats of player selected stars of the week in that week.
 
4)If possible, adding some pictures to headlines etc. Maybe picture of player scoring in his team jersey when selected to stars of week. Picture of players celebrating goal when opening preview of game? Goalie making save etc. They could be standard faces alltime, only changing jerseys name and number. This would make gameworld more alive.
 
5) interview of manager in some situations. Questions that manager can choose answer and then posted in headlines. Maybe in big trades, winning or losing streaks, player breaking trough etc.
 
6) feature to compare two players ratings, profile, contract everything
 
Just few ideas. Would like to know if some sre good and allso if you think some or all are terrible. Thanks and sorry for bad english.
 
Edit: 6)