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#36621 Release: Fall 2018 (Just to keep you posted!)

Posted by Mocha on August 16, 2018 - 10:40 AM

MOCA

 

First of all if you wanna call me out get my name right.

 

 

i dont think that making the game a pay-to-play or pay-to-win game will make the owner of the game sacrifice less time and do less for the game. He will still have to take care of it. Money wont give him more time. I even think that making it a paying game would make him have more work because now he will feel that he owes something to those who pay to play and will have to give even more effort. And the contributing members will probably expect more from the game. I dont agree with you.

 

Read what he wrote, we we're on the verge of losing the game without even knowing it. Money won't give him more time? What do you know about his life? This could become a viable business which would allow him to put more time into it by adding balance to his life, because he may be able to work less hours at his real job or he could hire more people to help him with this game. And that's just off the top of my head. He loved doing this but has begun to lose the love he once had because he already has had to work more and more to keep up with the demand from GM's like you because he feels he owes it to you, all the while GM's like you already expect more and more, in fact more than those of us who actually contribute.

 

 

And when you say most of us dont care , again you are being wrong. I am sure that everyone recognize that this is alot of work. That is not the problem at all. We also spend time to play the game and we decide to use our time here on this game and now if we have to pay to play it also change the situation for us. 

 

You already proved my point of being selfish and entitled in the first couple of sentences but now here you did it again. You say you recognize that this is a lot of work but then try and equate it to you playing the game.... Are you serious?? Then you again make it about YOU having to pay. This is a joke.

 

 

We will also lose all the effort and time we spent to build up our teams because we will lose all our players. Did you think about this ? I been here for a few years building my team and now not only i would have to pay but i lose what i have done. I cant agree with this solution.

 

Did I think about it? Yeah I voted against... Not only proving the focus group is no more relevant than the rest of the forums but now I'm glad I didn't because I know that the best part of the game is starting with a new team and having to build it from scratch. The problem now is starting with a new team, especially for new players to this game, is everyone else is already set and it takes that much more effort and more time getting a good team. That deters new players from joining. Getting a complete reset opens the floods gates for a whole new group of people plus it puts us all on even ground while being completely fair to the entire community. If you take so much pride in your team like so many of us, me included, then do it again.... The game has become stagnant because no one does anything any more, we all just hold onto all our players and the game now has hardly any activity. Anders wanted to address this and he did it while considering every single person including those that haven't even joined yet all the while you once again only think of yourself.

 

 

I also have a family and spend time here and im not gonna start to cry to everyone because of it. This is my choice and i wont blame anyone or ask for a compensation. 

 

Again made it about yourself and you belittle Anders because you once again place the same value on you playing the game versus him creating the whole thing.... Your 2 dollars a month is worth more than anything in his life or anything he has done for this game including the hours he has put in for us? 

 

 

Again like i said in a previous message , i think that the contribution should be for those who want to have a little extra like having a logo or mascot and such things

 

This is already how the all-star accounts works, you can change your logo and jersey numbers.

 

 

but not for limiting players from playing in the top competition and have the opportunity to be in a focus group. Changes made to the game can easily make it lose players so i think it should be taken care of very carefully. Many like me might see it as unfair that now we cant join the top competition and will want to quit the game. I can understand that some are willing to pay but it is not for everyone. It has nothing to do with what we think about all the time the owner of the game has put here or how we appreciate it. Nothing. I also disagree with having a focus group for those who pay and the free players dont have a word to say. This is also unfair to me. Everyone should be involved. Pay to have the possibility to say what i think ? No thanks. This is like if we would tell free players that you are not important and we dont care about what you think. This is not the way to go to improve the game and make everyone happy.

 

How it is now has been determined it isn't working because the community hasn't grown, and if you haven't figured it out yet the option to pay is not exclusive to anyone. You, like everyone, have the choice to pay to be in the paid leagues. As for the focus group, what makes you think your voice isn't already being heard? What are you doing right now, is this not you expressing your opinion? Has Anders and Tobias not responded to this forum post? Have they not already tried to make compromises to make this better for everyone? People have been quitting this game non stop already, the problem is already present. All you did here was demonstrate how you feel entitled to have the game be how you want it to be where you don't have to make any sacrifices but you expect Anders too just in order to "keep everyone happy". You think it is unfair to you? What about Anders.... This is absolutely disgusting. 

 

Also once again the sponsorship idea is overlooked.




#36612 Release: Fall 2018 (Just to keep you posted!)

Posted by Mocha on August 16, 2018 - 02:49 AM

 

Over the past year I’ve felt that the game haven’t really progressed as much as I wanted. Not much at all actually. But at the same time I’ve felt that I’ve put in as many hours that I possibly could. This made me feel very frustrated and to be honest it haven’t been as much fun developing this game like it used to when I first started out. With a full time job and family it’s really hard trying to develop and manage a game like this on my spare time without neglecting the true important things in life. This forced me to really consider my options.

In the end it really came down to either call it quits or take the game to a completely new level.

 

Did no one read this?? While most of you are so concerned with how we would have to pay a measly 1.99 a month (which he improved from 2.99 to try and keep you all happy which also includes now two teams, free league etc..) all most of you can think about is how this game should be free. None of you address, like he even said as shown above, how he has been neglecting the most important things in life. We all almost lost this game all together and to make it worthwhile to fit into his life he asks for very little all the while the benefits of this money would help improving the game you all claim to love so much. We live in a world where people will do almost anything to save a couple of dollars and we know nothing of each others lives and who can afford what and on that note, since when do we assume everything we read anywhere on the internet? He already tried multiple times to appease everyone all the while taking all of your words into account and as facts and I've been asking myself, why should he? Clearly most of you don't care about the sacrifices he's made to try and meet everyone's demands and when he asks for something in return which is nothing in comparison to the demands that have been made from this community, it's too much. Anders doesn't know anything about your lives and is just supposed to take your word for it if you can't afford it yet no one considers the one thing that is even more important in this world than money, and that is time. Time with his family, time for himself, time for his job to pay his bills and so on. You all take for granted the amount of time he has put into this game to make it what it is. The worst part is when a fellow GM by the username of littleb (who I respect greatly) makes a great suggestion of sponsorship, it is overlooked by most. Now I can tell you right now I was willing to be one of those sponsors, but after this forum post all of that has changed completely because of one issue. That is the level of selfishness and entitlement as shown by many GM's here who clearly feel this game should remain as is to suit their needs (or better yet, their wants). My back and forth with Haradrim earlier in this forum post started because he came off to me as entitled because he wasn't apart of the focus group and I still take offense to it especially now that Anders and Tobias have clarified that the focus group doesn't really matter but for me I didn't like that I was paying money that would benefit someone who has this mentality while at the same time it made my contributions feel worthless and unappreciated. Now we are seeing it on a larger scale and no longer directed towards me personally but towards the very person who created this game. It is truly sad how much of a discussion this has been when I would be willing to bet at least half of the GM's demanding that it be free will also pay up when the time comes. Now for all those that are just going to respond "Well everyone has their own opinion" you should really consider how not a single one of these opinions will matter if this game no longer exists. I for one along with many others have been trying to do our part to not let that happen and sorry to break it you all but the financial contributions are a big part of that. Try reading what the creator wrote in it's entirety and then make your decision of whether your willing to make a small sacrifice for something you claim to love, for someone who has sacrificed so much more for all of us instead of zoning in on the only "negative".

 

So with all of that being said you should all be asking yourselves one question, "Is this game I love so much and the time and effort Anders and Tobias have put into it worth 2 dollars a month?" If your answer is no, then why are you still here? 




#36358 Important! Where did all the mascots go?

Posted by Mocha on August 03, 2018 - 11:40 PM

The idea of using uploadable pics is a terrible idea. People uploading their own creates a bunch of problems in terms of what's acceptable and what isn't and it will look awful because there won't be any consistency. Plus there is nothing worse than gm's who will use pics that they think is funny when in reality it looks childish and amateur. So piece of advice for all who have suggested this: Be patient. They said the logo's are coming so stop asking.




#36121 Release: Fall 2018 (Just to keep you posted!)

Posted by Mocha on July 25, 2018 - 12:47 PM

So that means that important decisions like this are taken by those having All Star accounts and not by the whole community? 

 

These are your words and anyone reading them only is going to see it as you feeling like you should get a vote when you absolutely can have one all you have to do is support the game. In the focus group it is not a problem be it difference of opinion or debate and thats not why I was pissed off because those things are necessary to move the game forward. I respect everyone's opinion about the game, I just have a problem that this wasn't an idea, it was a question as to why those that pay are invited to the focus group and those that don't aren't invited. This wasn't an idea to make the game better, it was you getting at why, when you don't want to or can't pay (respectfully), that there shouldn't be a focus group all together and that it should all just become public without you thinking of the challenges of that in the first place and instead just wondering why you can't vote hence why I said it was self driven. By all means share your opinions about the game, everyone should regardless, but don't discredit those who pay for the sole purpose of moving the game forward by making someone such as myself feel like the money I and others spend isn't worth something when in fact in is the reason the game we all love is improving like it is in the first place. That is the only issue here, not the difference of opinion on something like the reset.




#36116 Release: Fall 2018 (Just to keep you posted!)

Posted by Mocha on July 25, 2018 - 10:16 AM

Oh I'm sorry Haradrim, let me me just change my wording then and use yours. With how the game is setup now, how are the all star accounts not us giving donations? The people who give these donations don't make any decisions so it's not "two-tiered" we are just given the opportunity to join a focus group and vote on things that ultimately just help Anders & co. make decisions but are still all theirs. We have no more say then you do. The reality is that this is the world we live in where in takes money to get things done. Do you think Anders should spend money out of his own pocket for getting new servers for the game to run on only for the simple reason of making sure no ones feelings get hurt cause you might think your voice isn't heard compared to those who support the game? He still listens to everyone anyways. The only thing the supporting does is give him a group of people from the community in which he has no prior knowledge of, that he can say are serious about the game and committed to it's development without question. It doesn't mean you or others who don't support or donate don't take it seriously as well but given the idea is to grow the community, getting votes from that many people, which is only going to grow, is counter productive. We would still be voting now if that was the case! This whole sense of entitlement just because you show up and play the game which is free (he never made anyone pay for anything) is absolutely ridiculous. Forget I joined in 2015. Forget I've played 3141 games. I SUPPORT 2 TEAMS. Now by your logic that would imply that i should have more say then anyone especially given I have no knowledge of anyone else who supports more than one team, but guess what? You would be wrong. I have wanted live games since day 1. I want updates to happen faster and more frequently and anyone can easily figure out that with donations, Anders can spend more time on the development of this game. This mentality that you and some others have though where you are completely self-driven is in fact toxic to the game because it creates a hostile community like it is right now. I mean maybe you can't tell but I'm livid right now because I want to help the game and know the focus group doesn't even decide anything all the while you feel you should be heard just the same all while making no attempt at even trying to hide the fact that you just care about your vision of the game and not anyone else's (unless they agree with you). How is it supposed to make someone like me feel who does donate when you and others come on to the forums and say it doesn't or shouldn't matter? I am deeply offended and pissed off at that notion when I'm contributing to progress. Plus maybe you've forgotten but there's a forum called "Suggestions".... Now if that's not good enough for you, then guess what? ANYONE CAN BECOME A SUPPORTER. So like I said before, you wanna vote (with still no guarantee it will matter, cause guess what? I voted against a total reset and lost and you don't hear me b*tching about it) then go and donate. It's as simple as that.




#36109 Release: Fall 2018 (Just to keep you posted!)

Posted by Mocha on July 25, 2018 - 01:33 AM

yes... and why shouldn't they be? Supporting the game enables it to move forward and if you aren't willing to pay a very small price to aid in the development then why do you feel you should have just as much say as those who do? The people who are willing to spend a few bucks a month are the ones that are helping these updates come to fruition which all of you who don't support the game, still reap the benefits of the updates regardless. Plus given every topic as far as updates are voted on by the group of supporters, it is still fair to all in the long run and I still say that even though certain votes I've made myself were not the majority and lost and yet it is no problem for me based on one simple thing: Anders and staff have done an amazing job thus far even though there's still lots of room for improvement. So let me leave you with a little reminder; they didn't need to include anyone in their decisions and yet they did and given that the all star accounts offer no perks in game other than names and numbers which don't affect gameplay, is it really that crazy that the people who are willing to pay a few bucks to make the game better for everyone are the ones used to aid them in making the best decisions for everyone??

 

You wanna have a vote...?

 

Stop being so cheap.




#36063 Assistant's Report

Posted by Mocha on July 22, 2018 - 05:52 PM

Not sure about this one but given I've heard the same thing happening to a lot of other teams as well, perhaps it's something to look into but if you're a GM who is reading the reports and trying to improve it can hinder you because the reports are not accurate at all in terms of how well your team did with the tactics used. I just played a game right now and lost 3-2 and all 3 goals against were scored on the PP, in fact he went 3/5 on the PP. Now I read the report and it says I did very well in my PK and it's my only green for the game. This can't possibly be correct and given this is the case for every single game, I figured I would bring it up because it is making the reports a useless part of the game. I've had 5 goals for in a game and had it tell me I had major difficulties offensively, I've shutout a team and it says my team did poorly in it's defensive tactics and so on.... So just something that might want to be looked at because it really makes no sense and I've personally spoken to other managers who inform me that the same thing happens to them.




#34233 Players Released

Posted by Mocha on April 15, 2018 - 11:52 AM

In Dangles, a bunch of players who still had 2 years left we're just released by the club and I believe it happened to all the teams.