To combat some Monday boredom, I went ahead and calculated some average overall stats from GHL teams. Overall doesn't of course paint the full picture of a player's capabilities, and thus is only a vague approximation of what a team can do, but it's the only easily available number for comparison.
Team overalls here are comprised of the average of a team's best 18 skaters (12 centers/forwards, 6 defenders) and the starting goalie. OFF/DEF come from the same players, but are simply rounded up/down to the closest full number for clarity. SG is simply the assumed starting goalie (best overall). Calculations made on day 5 of S10.
Here are the numbers - teams are in order starting from best OVR.
1. West Chicago Protons (GM: Richard Feynman - bouncer)
OFF: 89 DEF: 91 SG: 95 OVR: 89,5
2. Deadwood Vandals (GM: Kim Vandaele - koekefix)
OFF: 87 DEF: 89 SG: 96 OVR: 88,4
3. Harrisonville Sabercats (GM: Hurja Herra)
OFF: 88 DEF: 89 SG: 88 OVR: 87,6
4. Rome Trojans (GM: Yann Rock)
OFF: 87 DEF: 88 SG: 91 OVR: 87,5
5. Cedar Rapids Minutemen (GM: Richard Armour)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 93 OVR: 87,1
6. Eldred Elite (GM: Steven Bennett)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 93 OVR: 87,0
7. Canmore Grizzlies (GM: Matt Muffett - themattinthehat)
OFF: 86 DEF: 87 SG: 91 OVR: 86,9
8. Moapa Valley Gothic Knights (GM: David Chaw - FTW)
OFF: 87 DEF: 87 SG: 90 OVR: 86,9
9. Richford Rebels (GM: Jusu Manager)
OFF: 86 DEF: 89 SG: 89 OVR: 86,9
10. St.Thomas Stray Cats (GM: Erzac Ray - Erzac)
OFF: 87 DEF: 87 SG: 90 OVR: 86,8
11. Portland Oilers (GM: Xavier Zhou - xZhou)
OFF: 86 DEF: 88 SG: 91 OVR: 86,6
12. York Wolf Pack (GM: Jiri Heikkala)
OFF: 85 DEF: 87 SG: 93 OVR: 86,2
13. Violet Volcano (GM: Soupy Salez)
OFF: 85 DEF: 88 SG: 92 OVR: 86,1
14. Thetford Mines Pegasus (GM: Anthony Grauwels - Pingu)
Also as long as it is in the game it can't be considered "cheating" It would be considered an exploit, which people take advantage of ALL THE TIME. Maybe not in Biscuit or Clapper or wherever, but im going to continue to what I do in Lumber or else no matter what you will never get promoted nor stay in the GHL.
So either exploit the game or just don't bother? That's an admirable stance to take, especially as an advisor. With such tutelage this game will go places.
Thats a choice, everyone IS on the same level, just people choose not to do it which means your handicapping yourself.
This is the exact attitude that makes the argument for a total ban of human-CPU trades. Trading with the computer will never be perfectly balanced, and there will always be someone who (ab)uses the current rules as much as possible.
Being competitive in a managing game can't and shouldn't be about pilfering everything in sight, and justifying it with "because it's possible".
I've never had a 90+ skater on the roster. There have been countless times I could've poached better players from CPU teams. And yes, the team would have been better off with such trades. But I haven't done that. To me, there's no value or accomplishment to becoming competitive through something that you know is BS.
-- I started with one of those awful teams that as been managed by the computer for a while. By the way, I don't think a new manager will ever get a competitive team right away because it either has been managed by the computer (so not competitive) -- I made a lot of trades with computer and signed some free agents. I wasn't always fair with the way I used free agents to make trades. My apoligies if I ruined anyone experience --
Part of the reason why computer teams are not competitive off the bat might just be that they're robbed of their picks, and/or young talent. A big problem is the ability to trade freshly signed free agents for "free" assets, especially picks. Maybe one doesn't ruin anyone's experience right away, but making such trades just condemn new players into pilfered teams that will take ages to build up. You might just have started with such a team.
-- everyone has the exact same opportunity to trade with computer teams.--
Technically, yes, but every (computer) team has a limited number of assets. Once they're gone, they're gone. Also, just being able to do something doesn't quite equal that it should be done. It can't be a race of "who is the fastest to sign FA's and turn them into computer picks".
-- What's keeping new players from joining this game is the huge edge teams from GHL have on any other teams in this world because they get the best prospects (first two rounds so best 30 prospects every season) and the best free agents seasons after seasons --
--Right now, my best player is 86 overall, and a 85 goalie, I have a few 81-83 and mostly 80 overall players. If I'm lucky, I might sign 1 or 2 players over 85 overall, a few 83-85 as free agents. How will I compete with the top 4 GHL teams--
Comparing lower league teams to GHL teams is not a really good practice. Yes, they sign the best FA's. Yes, they get the best prospects. And so will you, if you make it to GHL and stay there. It's now my 3rd season in GHL, and I'm tied for 6th in the standings. The first two seasons I finished 12th. I never expected to compete for the first couple of seasons in GHL, my only goal was to not relegate and gradually build up the team. Maybe I'll even make the playoffs this season. I might even have a shot at the cup in a season or two. Even right now I probably couldn't win a playoff series against a top-4 team. But at some point I will. And the whole process has been, and continues to be, exciting.
Point being, I don't think you're expected to stand up to the best GHL as you come out of SHL. Hell, when I got to the GHL I barely knew a player's overall might be displayed in green (I think I had one, 81). It takes time, and it should, to become competitive when you move up a league level. For me, that's what a sports management game is all about - seeing your long term decisions, trades, signings combine into a hopefully winning package over time.
I might've ventured a bit off topic - computer trading in itself is not a problem. Computer trading, when used to accomplish trades that wouldn't be feasible between human managers, is a problem. That, and the FA flipping for computer picks.
One-way contract only means that a player will never move down league levels. I.E. you can't trade them to a lower league, or should you get relegated, they would be released.
Promotion clause (quote from help files):
"A *promotion contract* clause will increase the player’s salary if his team is promoted to a higher league. The new salary is calculated so that the player will keep the same percentage salary cap impact. E.g. if the player’s salary was 10% of the cap limit in the previous league his new salary will be 10% of the new league’s salary cap.
If a player with a *promotion contract clause* is traded to a team in a higher league level the contract clause will activate just as if his team hade been promoted.
Once the *promotion contract clause* have been activated it will be removed from the player’s contract."
Well, that's three picks, all likely top-5, gone to the same team. All from trades with computers, and all with the same pattern - a bunch of bench warmers for a great pick. I guess it's not cheating as it's within the game mechanics, but one could never pull off any of those trades with a human manager. It's quite blatant abuse of being able to trade with computers, personally I don't think such trades should be possible.