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#34310 NHL discussion

Posted by rainsilent on April 18, 2018 - 04:52 PM

This year the Division IA World Championship will be arranged in Hungary, so I have a chance to see some good hockey matches. The Vegas Golden Knights defeated my favourite hockey team in the playoff, so I hope I will see the great Kopitar in Budapest. :) Do you have any information that he will play in the tournament? He is on the Team Slovenia's Entry List...


It is likely but that doesn't mean that he will. Players that get eliminated, when healthy, go play in that tournament. Enjoy the tournament.


Wish I had put up 1st round predictions now. See how much flak I would have gotten for saying Vegas in 5 and nearly being right. I also had Sharks in 5 for the record.

#34182 Why do I keep losing (help a new member)

Posted by rainsilent on April 10, 2018 - 11:30 PM

So the primary issues are that your checking line only has 1 decent checking type player and you have no two way defenders. Never mind the role that you set for your players. Basically you got players trying to do things that they aren't good at doing. Also all of your defensemen are defensive defensemen. You can set them to match line but stay at home would likely be best for most if not all of them. Only one of your forwards makes for a suitable player on a checking line so scrap the checking line for a two way line and adjust players as necessary.


Finally team tactics wise set it to what you want it to be. The players will develop into the tactics that you choose. Just know that it may take time to do. Also you don't necessarily need a 7th defender however seeing as how most of your defenders have relatively low endurance ratings if you find your defenders getting tired a lot it may be an option worth exploring. That said only playing 1 on each PP would almost do the same thing as it will actively cut down the amount of time on ice the defenders are getting and that alone may be enough.

#34169 Why do I keep losing (help a new member)

Posted by rainsilent on April 10, 2018 - 08:36 AM

Since I can't see the most important thing, your roster, I can't really do much to help. With what I can see it could be anything from trying to get players on a line to play a style that doesn't suit them to the players just not liking the system which is a possibility.

#34128 NHL Awards. What are your Picks/Opinions?

Posted by rainsilent on April 07, 2018 - 02:21 PM

Yes I am an Andersen fan and HUGE Andersen fan and I did expect a better year from him. But I am also a Ducks fan and watched a lot of the games and did not think Gibson played particularly well, his numbers were good but he just seemed sloppy and slow and did not look comfortable at all, Andersen seemed to play well but did not have the numbers as some of the other goalies, Raanta also did not seem to be very comfortable because I believe this is his first year starting correct? Rinne seemed to have probably the best year of all the other goalies facing a lot of shots and having good and consistent numbers but he just didn't seem to have the workload Andersen did, I have also noticed in the last 5-7 Ducks games Gibson has had to make 35-45 saves for them to win. Andersen has played a lot better over the last 15 or so games and if you factor in every thing you mentioned and I mentioned then I would have to say Rinne is the most deserving, he has played consistent, has good numbers, has played quality consistent, has seen a lot of shots per game, at times has carried his team to a win (all of the goalies have done that but Rinne's performance in 4-5 to 1 games has been much overlooked at times) and has made a lot of quality saves (in the few Nashville games I've seen) he is the only goalie to do all of these things many of them have don 3-5 of them but not all 6.


Gibson has had a few rather sloppy games but he plays at his best seemingly when he is active which can look sloppy as well. Active goalies tend to look chaotic and nearly out of control at times. Gibson isn't Tim Thomas kinds of active but he is more on the active side. As for him having to make a lot of saves to win that is more evidence of the Ducks losing the possession battle that they try to play and should be concerning to Ducks fans entering the playoffs. Personally I think Andersen is the better goalie right now. I just think he had a bit of a down year for him. That said I think Gibson and Andersen are both top 10 NHL goalies right now.


Raanta didn't look comfortable to start and I attribute that more to new team than first time starting. By about 20 games into the season though he really started to play lights out nearly every game. I didn't take him as a serious quality starter until he strung a number of those performances together. Then it turned into can he really be so good as to potentially carry this team into respectability? Well not if he is hurt was the answer. If he stays healthy next season and plays as well he may be able to drag this team into near playoff contention.

#34112 NHL Awards. What are your Picks/Opinions?

Posted by rainsilent on April 06, 2018 - 09:53 AM

 As for Raanta and Gibson I believe they did not have a good start to there season and were not very consistent throughout the year


Raanta had an average start statistically and got a lot better as the season went on while Gibson had a pretty good start to the season (marginally better than Andersen) and kept it going through the season. Both were very consistent through the season too. That is why their numbers for the entire season are so good. You don't get incredible numbers by being inconsistent. You get Cam Ward like numbers for being inconsistent. Cam Ward, for random stretches equaling about 2 months total, will perform like one of the best goalies in the league. However the rest of the time he is average at best. That is why Carolina traded for Scott Darling who never got comfortable this season and had a really bad season.


Also you need to take shots against with a grain of salt. It is a byproduct of both the quality of the team defensively but also the style of play that the team is playing. Toronto is an up tempo and offensively aggressive team. They are naturally going to give up a lot of shots as a result no matter the skill of the defenders. Thus his 33 shots against really isn't that impressive to take note of especially when the team offensively was basically going shot for shot with the other team.


However look at Gibson who has notably better stats. Plays on Anaheim who plays to a much more methodical puck possession style yet got out shot on average 33-30. That means that on most nights Anaheim was losing the puck possession style that they were trying to play. Basically Anaheim was loosing the puck possession battle and was winning games. The goalie has a lot to do with that. If you find that as good Raanta is just a better story. Basically half of an AHL team in front of him and puts up ridiculously amazing numbers. It is a testament to how good of a coach Rick Tocchet is as well seeing as how they have to play such a defensively conservative game just to not get embarrassed every night.


It sounds like your a big Andersen fan. That is fine (a good choice too as I think he is in the top 10 of all NHL goalies) but make sure to not let you being a fan of his dilute the reality of his performance. Yes he had a relatively good year but it wasn't a great one and to be honest was a bit of a down season for him, at least in my mind. After all his backup had statistically the best season of any goalie to at least play 6 games and he played 18 going 11-5-1 with a 2.14 and .935. For Andersen to really be a consideration for the Vezina he would have had to have gotten at least a .922-.925 save % season with a 2.55 or better GAA and to be honest that is about what I was expecting out of him. The team defensively did get at least slightly better in front of him this season compared to last after all so expecting better than last season seemed to be natural. That said look for Toronto to go for a top 4 defender either this offseason or next via trade. As ridiculous as it sounds I would love to see Toronto bag Karlsson for either Nylander or Marner (they can't keep all 3 cap wise without really hurting team balance so it is a worthwhile sacrifice and ideally in my mind Marner since Nylander and Matthews play so well together) and a few extra pieces.

#34010 NHL Awards. What are your Picks/Opinions?

Posted by rainsilent on April 04, 2018 - 11:12 PM

I personally believe there should be an award for the best numbers and then for performance cause I did forget about Raanta he has played well and on a not very good team but also taking that into consideration Crawford played really well on a struggling Hawks team and he has a .929% but I still take Andersen because of the high amount of shots and the quality Rinne has played well, really well but he is on a better team I just don't see him carrying that workload like Andersen after remembering Raanta he has probably some of the best numbers in the league on one of the worst teams in the league .930 is a good year anytime and on that team that is certainly Vezina stats. Now for defensemen I don't really follow them because I am a goalie on my HS team but based on what you said and what the trophy is for I would have to change my vote to Doughty cause the Norris is for best DEFENSEMEN not most points, in addition they should have more and deeper stats like how many times he won/lost a 1on1 or how many passes/ bad passes he made or did he take his guy in front of the net how many times was he out of position? I would like to see some of those numbers.


Starting with D and some of the numbers you may be interested in to know. Hedman has 45 takeaways to Doughty's 17. Doughty also has more giveaways at 79 to Hedman's 65 but situation dictates the real relevance there. I could go on with more stats however just go to NHL.com and look up player stats and sort by defensemen and then under report you can bring up different kinds of numbers to look at. One thing I will say is that 5 of 6 Carolina defensemen ended up top 26 in takeaways for all defensemen in the NHL. Slavin 1st in the NHL with 76, Faulk 5th with 63, Hanifin 14th with 48, Trevor van Reimsdyk 17th with 45 and Pesce 26th with 38. That was something I found rather interesting.


As for goalies Hallebuyck was on the Jets which are still known for massive defensive breakdowns on occasion and he has near Rinne stats which is why I included him. That said for goalies numbers is performance. Better team or not Rinne had a better season than Andersen. While Andersen has had a good year relative it just isn't anywhere near good enough to even put it into Vezina consideration. At best Andersen had an above average year. That said I have always been wary of Rinne because his home plate save percentage has always been on the low side. I haven't looked at it for this year though. If your looking for other goalies John Gibson (.926 2.43 GAA) and Quick (.924 2.34 GAA) are worth looking at too but I think it is between Rinne and Hallebuyck.


As for Chicago that team has been held into relevance by 5 players for the past 2-3 seasons. Keith, Kane, Toews, Crawford and Panarin. One of them got traded and another hurt for the majority of the season. To me it is not a surprise whatsoever that they are well out of the playoff picture. In fact I even think that they have been massively over performing standings wise the past number of years prior to this season. While most everyone has been calling them a powerhouse team in the west the past 3 years or so I haven't been looking at them that way the entire time. They have just been too thin of a team that got by simply by avoiding injuries to their marquee players.

#34007 NHL Awards. What are your Picks/Opinions?

Posted by rainsilent on April 04, 2018 - 07:23 PM

You have a very good point about Carlson but I believe because of Hedman's play is one of the reasons Tampa Bay is so good and the same reason for Vasilevskiy  he carried them in a few games and he's seen the second most shots in the league.


Tampa is so good because they are incredibly stacked. Yes Vasilevskiy has faced a large number of shots however most have been lower quality shots as Tampa's D crowds the middle and allows outside shots. I have to take that into account when looking at Hedman for Norris and Vasilevskiy for Vezina. I also have to take into account that Hedman starts in the offensive end at least 54% of the time and ends there more often than not too with a heavy shots for bias. Doughty however starts in the offensive zone only 46% of the time and has a better shots for bias. Doughty also has similar points and isn't too far off in +/-. That just tells me that Doughty is doing more and having a bigger impact relative. Ok this isn't defensive MVP but I just see more impressive numbers from Doughty than I do from Hedman. That said we are basically trying to spit hairs here. They are, in my mind, 2 of the top 5 defenders in the league.


As for your take on Andersen for Vezina he isn't even close to earning it. Vezina is basically tailor made to go to the goalie with the best statistical stats through the entire season. .917 is at best slightly above average for a quality starter. Yes Andersen is on a not particularly good defensive team so he has had to make more than a few extra spectacular saves however if he were Vezina worthy his stats would look more like Raanta (.930 with a 2.24GAA in 46 games played) who I think we can both agree is on a significantly worse team than Andersen no? Andersen had a good season but nothing near Vezina worthy compared to many other goalies out there.

#33982 NHL Awards. What are your Picks/Opinions?

Posted by rainsilent on April 04, 2018 - 08:17 AM

For Hart I would have to go with Hall. His play defines MVP more than any other player to me. While Kopitar and MicKinnon are 2nd and 3rd for me neither team sinks more down the standings without than the Devils do. I genuinely think they would still be picking top 10 in the upcoming draft at best without him. The other two teams would likely be mid-round picks. Before anyone doubts me on Colorado let me remind you that MacKinnon's play allowed them to trade Duchene. Without him they don't trade Duchene. Or at least they get Brassard back in return. They would have to.


For Vezina while I think Fleury, and even Luongo or Raanta (No seriously Raanta. Imagine if he would have been healthy all season and put up those kind of numbers on arguably the worst team in the league no matter their finishing position. Playoffs or not it would be difficult to not have him a favorite.), have the numbers they don't have the games. To me it comes down to either Hallebuyck or Rinne. Vasilevskiy just had a not particularly good finish to the season the entire last month or so and I have to consider the entire season not just 4/5ths of it. Personally due to slightly better performance I have to give it to Rinne.


For Norris I have to go Doughty. The only players close to me on that list are Hedman and Burns however Doughty starts in the defensive end more than both of the other two by far and ends up with better relative shot metrics when that is taken into account. Also he isn't on nearly as strong a team as Hedman. While Burns isn't on a particularly elite team either Norris is more for a defender that shows the best all around ability at the position and Burns isn't an elite defender in his own end. That said I am going to throw a 4th name at you that I think should be getting a look as well. John Carlson. Washington's D was notably hampered with the losses of Alsner and Schmidt. Carlson had a Doughty like season doing a lot of defensive heavy lifting that I think is getting overlooked.

#33934 MatchLine & Dynamic

Posted by rainsilent on April 02, 2018 - 09:34 PM

To add on to above:


Dynamic is good for high skilled defenders that can do it all as well as two way. Think the elite defensemen in the modern game. This set up is basically giving them the green light to do whatever they think is best at any time.


I would use match line if your team plays a specific style a la very physical and aggressive, strong puck play, what have you and you have the defenders to match that style or alternately you have high skilled do everything defenders and you want them to match the play of the forward line they are playing with.

#33770 Hoarding Players

Posted by rainsilent on March 29, 2018 - 06:42 PM

 I like the current idea, but I do sign all my prospects to deals which has pushed me to just above 40 slots. If you guys roll it out, could you please do it  on day 1 of a new season for each world or else allow teams to make any trade as long as it reduces your total player count until you are able to be within a player limit.


That would be really hard to do as I don't think that the timing would ever be that good between all of the game worlds. That said I think a grace until the start of the next season would be the best.

#33739 Roster and Team Building Ideas

Posted by rainsilent on March 28, 2018 - 06:58 PM

Point number one has been addressed. However it will take time to see the results of the solution take effect. Patience here would be appreciated.


Point two was something debated over when "minor leagues" were created. It was decided not to go that route for 2 main reasons. First it removed any real management role from lower league teams as they would just be given the extra players from leagues above and actual signing and maintaining their own players was more or less absent with this idea. Second calling the players up would suddenly mean that the lower league team is losing a player on their team just out of the blue with nothing the manager can do. Not an ideal thing to be dealing with when running a team to say the least. Also there are other problems with your given idea. Chiefly the complications behind it. For example why should a team that sent a player down to develop have to then match an offer to keep the player just because the lower league team that got them when they were sent down then promoted? The player is already under contract to that team and should remain so until they are either traded or the contract ends. That of course does not include the waiver system that is being worked on to be included but that still doesn't come into play.


The third idea has a major issue. Every league has their cap and contract system set at a certain percentage of the league above. This allows the simplest transition of player salaries from one league to the next should a team either promote or a player be traded. The third idea, and since it is an extension of the second even the second idea, just wouldn't work in the current system from how I understand it. Something would need a major rework.


The IHL and IIHL idea would just create a mess out of a currently rather streamlined system currently in place. In terms of new players joining there are two solutions. First would be the creation of a new game world and second would be a more strict enforcement of the fact that managers should only have 1 profile to create more room for new players without creating new game worlds. Let me go back to and explain the first part. The way that the leagues are currently set up is the foundation of everything in the game world. The draft, the way contracts work, everything. Breaking it up in the way you suggested means that most everything would have to be reworked from the ground up. The current system works as intended. It may not be the perfect system in your mind but changing these game worlds now in that manner just isn't likely going to happen. If Anders decides to try to create one massive game world for each speed type with a massive ladder tree then your idea would most definitely come to the forefront. However until that happens how things are now will likely remain how things will continue to be. It is a different solution to the same problem with no absolute right or wrong answer to it.


Finally I suggested getting rid of center and forward for just forward way back in beta. Anders wanted to keep some sort of distinction between a center and a winger though and thus kept it which is fine for the game.

#33669 Affiliate hoarding.

Posted by rainsilent on March 25, 2018 - 06:07 PM

If you remove the extra players that I have signed (young IIHL/IHL/BHL quality players unsigned at a start of a season that show promise for growth that I signed a season or two ago so they had a chance to develop) my roster is at 37. Who I would get rid of to get to 35 wouldn't be a hard decision. After this season is over if I keep this roster as is the rest of the season and stay in the GHL I will be letting go of 8 players. 35 is definitely manageable for a GHL team. A bit tight but definitely manageable.

#33668 GHL S14 power rankings

Posted by rainsilent on March 25, 2018 - 05:56 PM

Average age would be an interesting add.

#33647 Affiliate hoarding.

Posted by rainsilent on March 25, 2018 - 03:49 AM

Don't think that I am saying that there shouldn't be a roster limit. When the suggestion first came up a long time ago I said somewhere in the ballpark of 40 is where I think we should be. Too low of a roster limit and proper team building becomes nearly impossible as does sustaining your team from efforts within. Too high a limit and it might as well not be there. With around 40 you can have 5 depth players give or take a few and 10-12 prospects with some extra room left over for multiplayer trades.


Edit: Also turning and burning picks means that someone somewhere is selling out their picks/prospects for a short term risk while the team benefiting is maintaining their position atop the league they are in with valuable future assets. So long as the team benefiting works the deals to maintain status que they aren't ever going to move and it will remain status quo. If you guys don't think human managers are that gullible look at the team that won the GHL in Biscuit the prior two seasons. They got human managers to give them way more value than the players they were trading away were worth and now that team is a gold mine of young players.

#33626 Affiliate hoarding.

Posted by rainsilent on March 23, 2018 - 05:54 PM

The roster limit has to apply to all players for simplicity sake. You can't have 18-20 players not counting. Edit: ok you can but again simpler is better usually. If GHL teams have only 10 extra players they would theoretically be continuously trading prospects for picks, drafting those players and then trading them again just to stay under the roster limit. It creates a ridiculous situation.


Also if it is more difficult to hoard players in the lower leagues than what is the point of the higher roster limit? I ask this in complete, genuine honesty.


Finally creating a roster limit doesn't directly address the real issue with player hoarding. The fact that teams can sign players of any age and skill level and then stash them away in their affiliate system. With the roster limit it would theoretically be possible to still stash away 10 real quality players and still hoard them. What I suggested to Anders in the original hoarding thread is a much better solution because it is direct. Any player above a certain age and overall (I think 23-25 and older at say 83 overall for GHL teams is about right) that get sent to the affiliate immediately goes on waivers for x time. Only after that time is up and no team claims them will they then go to the affiliates and stay on said team. Every new season the players that are at or above the age limit go to the main roster and have to be sent to the affiliate at the start of the season to have the process repeat again unless the manager decides to keep them on the main roster to again prevent from player hoarding.


Edit: Paul T it doesn't matter how much you care or not. It is important to talk about it and any other issues in the game openly. The more friendly dialogue that happens over an issue the more possible solutions that can be found. The more possible solutions that get discussed the more likely it is that a really good solution gets found. Good solution idea or not talking about issues with the game in an open and friendly manner only will go to help make the game better as issues are getting discussed which will lead to suggested fixes which will lead to improving the game.


As for low player salaries yes it is a real issue but what isn't helping is the inflated overalls. I think once player overalls come back down again we can see what the salary demands are doing and go from there. That said players weren't asking enough then either so bumping up player salary demands at least a little wouldn't be a bad thing in my mind at all. After all the ideal situation is that the best teams have to deal with cap crunches and difficult decisions in who to keep and who to give away or get rid when their team is good because of quality depth.