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#101

Posted August 15, 2018 - 04:18 PM

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Hi I just want to comment about the subscription. I think that the subscription idea is very good but me I am only 15 years old so I can't really pay the money for the subscription and I have already ask to my parents to pay for the All Star manager but they refuse. They don't want to spend money on video game. I really don't make this comment to ask for a free subscrption but Tobias and the moderators, you should give a reward to those that win for example 5 or 10 free hockey league championship to give them a life free subsrciption. It would be a good way for those who don't want or just can't put the money in it despite your REALLY REALLY BIG AND GOOD WORK on this game to have a subscription. SO manager will need to show there inflatuation to get this BIG rward by being very active and you will give a goal to free league manager. Becuase if you make a free hockey league with nothing at the end I am sure that you will loose a lot of human manager. 

 

So in conclusion you should give managers who win FHL series and who are very active at free life subscription.



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Posted August 15, 2018 - 04:38 PM

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Hi I just want to comment about the subscription. I think that the subscription idea is very good but me I am only 15 years old so I can't really pay the money for the subscription and I have already ask to my parents to pay for the All Star manager but they refuse. They don't want to spend money on video game. I really don't make this comment to ask for a free subscrption but Tobias and the moderators, you should give a reward to those that win for example 5 or 10 free hockey league championship to give them a life free subsrciption. It would be a good way for those who don't want or just can't put the money in it despite your REALLY REALLY BIG AND GOOD WORK on this game to have a subscription. SO manager will need to show there inflatuation to get this BIG rward by being very active and you will give a goal to free league manager. Becuase if you make a free hockey league with nothing at the end I am sure that you will loose a lot of human manager. 
 
So in conclusion you should give managers who win FHL series and who are very active at free life subscription.


This would be a recipe for mass cheating

#103

Posted August 15, 2018 - 04:53 PM

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Hi I just want to comment about the subscription. I think that the subscription idea is very good but me I am only 15 years old so I can't really pay the money for the subscription and I have already ask to my parents to pay for the All Star manager but they refuse. They don't want to spend money on video game. I really don't make this comment to ask for a free subscrption but Tobias and the moderators, you should give a reward to those that win for example 5 or 10 free hockey league championship to give them a life free subsrciption. It would be a good way for those who don't want or just can't put the money in it despite your REALLY REALLY BIG AND GOOD WORK on this game to have a subscription. SO manager will need to show there inflatuation to get this BIG rward by being very active and you will give a goal to free league manager. Becuase if you make a free hockey league with nothing at the end I am sure that you will loose a lot of human manager. 

 

So in conclusion you should give managers who win FHL series and who are very active at free life subscription.

 

 I do know what I would tell my kids if they asked me to pay for a monthly subscription to a game... likely the same thing they said to you.  However maybe you could make them a deal to earn the 1.99 a month too?  As a parent I am usually more giving to the kid willing to make a deal.  Who knows it might work?

 

This is the type of situation that letting someone sponsor someone else would be really cool though like talked about before.



#104

Posted August 15, 2018 - 06:34 PM

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yeah but they are very afraid to put cradit or debit information on internet  :(  :confused:



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Posted August 15, 2018 - 07:24 PM

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I would like that tobias or the others moderators respond to my sugestion  :)  

I try to deal with my mom  ;)  :D  

That is what really happen

Me : Mom if I do the washing, the dishes and the sweeper one week each month, could you give me  two dollars for gphm?

My mom : haha I will never spend money on virtual game that bring anything into the real world

Me :  :(  :mellow:  bruh but it will give me experience if I want to become a real hockey manager

My mom : ( she continue her things without responding me )...



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Posted August 15, 2018 - 07:26 PM

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yes... and why shouldn't they be? Supporting the game enables it to move forward and if you aren't willing to pay a very small price to aid in the development then why do you feel you should have just as much say as those who do? The people who are willing to spend a few bucks a month are the ones that are helping these updates come to fruition which all of you who don't support the game, still reap the benefits of the updates regardless. Plus given every topic as far as updates are voted on by the group of supporters, it is still fair to all in the long run and I still say that even though certain votes I've made myself were not the majority and lost and yet it is no problem for me based on one simple thing: Anders and staff have done an amazing job thus far even though there's still lots of room for improvement. So let me leave you with a little reminder; they didn't need to include anyone in their decisions and yet they did and given that the all star accounts offer no perks in game other than names and numbers which don't affect gameplay, is it really that crazy that the people who are willing to pay a few bucks to make the game better for everyone are the ones used to aid them in making the best decisions for everyone??

 

 

 

 

 

MOCHA I have to disagree! If we want more people to contribute and want to keep players happy , everyone should have the possibility to participate. I dont think that the goal for the owners of this game is to lose players or make the game a pay-to-win game but one thing i dont like is that now we will be forced to pay to join the competition and the free play will be a different league if i understood the message. Personally i dont agree with this and i am very dissapointed. This makes the game a bit pay-to-win since we cant join this competition and only some who pay can be there even if their teams are not as good. I am more for the free play and for all the leagues and competitions open to everyone but maybe a contribution for those who want to have a logo a mascot and some things others cant have as long it is not affecting the gameplay and performance or give an advantage. This way it would not block players from being there anyway and join the competition and would be a fair competiton not just for those who pay. One of the reason i play here is because it is free. There is other hockey managing games where we can pay and why i am not in those is because it is free here and i am probably not the only one like this.

 



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Posted August 15, 2018 - 07:50 PM

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This respond is my like my OPINION OMG thats what I wanted to say



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Posted August 15, 2018 - 10:00 PM

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.. you should give a reward to those that win for example 5 or 10 free hockey league championship to give them a life free subsrciption.


I'm not sure about a lifetime free account but earning something for winning 'x' amount of championships in the Frijoles Hockey League sounds intriguing.

And by the way - some of you guys who are asking to put up a fund to support players - what the heck?! You guys are super thoughtful! I wouldn't think anyone would have made comments like that but there are multiple of you that did! It goes to show how cool this community has grown.

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Posted August 15, 2018 - 10:03 PM

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@JacobGirouard: you could always join me in the Frijoles League ;)

- we will have retried beans and microwaved can cheese after every match for our team post-game meeting! You can join that too!

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Over the past year I’ve felt that the game haven’t really progressed as much as I wanted. Not much at all actually. But at the same time I’ve felt that I’ve put in as many hours that I possibly could. This made me feel very frustrated and to be honest it haven’t been as much fun developing this game like it used to when I first started out. With a full time job and family it’s really hard trying to develop and manage a game like this on my spare time without neglecting the true important things in life. This forced me to really consider my options.

In the end it really came down to either call it quits or take the game to a completely new level.

 

Did no one read this?? While most of you are so concerned with how we would have to pay a measly 1.99 a month (which he improved from 2.99 to try and keep you all happy which also includes now two teams, free league etc..) all most of you can think about is how this game should be free. None of you address, like he even said as shown above, how he has been neglecting the most important things in life. We all almost lost this game all together and to make it worthwhile to fit into his life he asks for very little all the while the benefits of this money would help improving the game you all claim to love so much. We live in a world where people will do almost anything to save a couple of dollars and we know nothing of each others lives and who can afford what and on that note, since when do we assume everything we read anywhere on the internet? He already tried multiple times to appease everyone all the while taking all of your words into account and as facts and I've been asking myself, why should he? Clearly most of you don't care about the sacrifices he's made to try and meet everyone's demands and when he asks for something in return which is nothing in comparison to the demands that have been made from this community, it's too much. Anders doesn't know anything about your lives and is just supposed to take your word for it if you can't afford it yet no one considers the one thing that is even more important in this world than money, and that is time. Time with his family, time for himself, time for his job to pay his bills and so on. You all take for granted the amount of time he has put into this game to make it what it is. The worst part is when a fellow GM by the username of littleb (who I respect greatly) makes a great suggestion of sponsorship, it is overlooked by most. Now I can tell you right now I was willing to be one of those sponsors, but after this forum post all of that has changed completely because of one issue. That is the level of selfishness and entitlement as shown by many GM's here who clearly feel this game should remain as is to suit their needs (or better yet, their wants). My back and forth with Haradrim earlier in this forum post started because he came off to me as entitled because he wasn't apart of the focus group and I still take offense to it especially now that Anders and Tobias have clarified that the focus group doesn't really matter but for me I didn't like that I was paying money that would benefit someone who has this mentality while at the same time it made my contributions feel worthless and unappreciated. Now we are seeing it on a larger scale and no longer directed towards me personally but towards the very person who created this game. It is truly sad how much of a discussion this has been when I would be willing to bet at least half of the GM's demanding that it be free will also pay up when the time comes. Now for all those that are just going to respond "Well everyone has their own opinion" you should really consider how not a single one of these opinions will matter if this game no longer exists. I for one along with many others have been trying to do our part to not let that happen and sorry to break it you all but the financial contributions are a big part of that. Try reading what the creator wrote in it's entirety and then make your decision of whether your willing to make a small sacrifice for something you claim to love, for someone who has sacrificed so much more for all of us instead of zoning in on the only "negative".

 

So with all of that being said you should all be asking yourselves one question, "Is this game I love so much and the time and effort Anders and Tobias have put into it worth 2 dollars a month?" If your answer is no, then why are you still here? 



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MOCA i dont think that making the game a pay-to-play or pay-to-win game will make the owner of the game sacrifice less time and do less for the game. He will still have to take care of it. Money wont give him more time. I even think that making it a paying game would make him have more work because now he will feel that he owes something to those who pay to play and will have to give even more effort. And the contributing members will probably expect more from the game. I dont agree with you. And when you say most of us dont care , again you are being wrong. I am sure that everyone recognize that this is alot of work. That is not the problem at all. We also spend time to play the game and we decide to use our time here on this game and now if we have to pay to play it also change the situation for us. We will also lose all the effort and time we spent to build up our teams because we will lose all our players. Did you think about this ? I been here for a few years building my team and now not only i would have to pay but i lose what i have done. I cant agree with this solution. I also have a family and spend time here and im not gonna start to cry to everyone because of it. This is my choice and i wont blame anyone or ask for a compensation. Again like i said in a previous message , i think that the contribution should be for those who want to have a little extra like having a logo or mascot and such things but not for limiting players from playing in the top competition and have the opportunity to be in a focus group. Changes made to the game can easily make it lose players so i think it should be taken care of very carefully. Many like me might see it as unfair that now we cant join the top competition and will want to quit the game. I can understand that some are willing to pay but it is not for everyone. It has nothing to do with what we think about all the time the owner of the game has put here or how we appreciate it. Nothing. I also disagree with having a focus group for those who pay and the free players dont have a word to say. This is also unfair to me. Everyone should be involved. Pay to have the possibility to say what i think ? No thanks. This is like if we would tell free players that you are not important and we dont care about what you think. This is not the way to go to improve the game and make everyone happy.



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With the risk of being shot..... :) 
We enjoy playing this game.
Should we have to pay to play in the future or not, it's a choice we can make and stand for on our own. It costs money to build, maintain and run this game.
We are all aware of that,
I hope.
Anders and Tobias asked for a sum of money from new and existing players to keep running the game in good fashion and to pay for their time. After that, they have given existing players a very discounted price. Based on that gesture, I think we have nothing more to talk about. Either one chooses to pay the fee or not. (Or play in the free league)
The choice is simple,  Bantering back and forth in the forum is irrelevant. As long as i enjoy playing the game and can choose to pay the fee or play the free option.
That´s all that´s needed.
There is rarely anything free in this world anymore , i do understand that some have less money to spend then others(been there). That´s the way it is , we'll live with that.


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i think we run a real risk of isolating a lot of people with these heavy-handed comments. i'm positive the owners of this game don't need guys going to bat for them by insulting folks or telling them their opinions on the game are worthless or giving them a "like it or leave it" ultimatum.

There are a multitude of reasons a person can't make a monthly on-line payment. If you can't understand that, i'm sorry but bashing them over the head is just going to make a lesser gaming experience for us all.



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MOCA

 

First of all if you wanna call me out get my name right.

 

 

i dont think that making the game a pay-to-play or pay-to-win game will make the owner of the game sacrifice less time and do less for the game. He will still have to take care of it. Money wont give him more time. I even think that making it a paying game would make him have more work because now he will feel that he owes something to those who pay to play and will have to give even more effort. And the contributing members will probably expect more from the game. I dont agree with you.

 

Read what he wrote, we we're on the verge of losing the game without even knowing it. Money won't give him more time? What do you know about his life? This could become a viable business which would allow him to put more time into it by adding balance to his life, because he may be able to work less hours at his real job or he could hire more people to help him with this game. And that's just off the top of my head. He loved doing this but has begun to lose the love he once had because he already has had to work more and more to keep up with the demand from GM's like you because he feels he owes it to you, all the while GM's like you already expect more and more, in fact more than those of us who actually contribute.

 

 

And when you say most of us dont care , again you are being wrong. I am sure that everyone recognize that this is alot of work. That is not the problem at all. We also spend time to play the game and we decide to use our time here on this game and now if we have to pay to play it also change the situation for us. 

 

You already proved my point of being selfish and entitled in the first couple of sentences but now here you did it again. You say you recognize that this is a lot of work but then try and equate it to you playing the game.... Are you serious?? Then you again make it about YOU having to pay. This is a joke.

 

 

We will also lose all the effort and time we spent to build up our teams because we will lose all our players. Did you think about this ? I been here for a few years building my team and now not only i would have to pay but i lose what i have done. I cant agree with this solution.

 

Did I think about it? Yeah I voted against... Not only proving the focus group is no more relevant than the rest of the forums but now I'm glad I didn't because I know that the best part of the game is starting with a new team and having to build it from scratch. The problem now is starting with a new team, especially for new players to this game, is everyone else is already set and it takes that much more effort and more time getting a good team. That deters new players from joining. Getting a complete reset opens the floods gates for a whole new group of people plus it puts us all on even ground while being completely fair to the entire community. If you take so much pride in your team like so many of us, me included, then do it again.... The game has become stagnant because no one does anything any more, we all just hold onto all our players and the game now has hardly any activity. Anders wanted to address this and he did it while considering every single person including those that haven't even joined yet all the while you once again only think of yourself.

 

 

I also have a family and spend time here and im not gonna start to cry to everyone because of it. This is my choice and i wont blame anyone or ask for a compensation. 

 

Again made it about yourself and you belittle Anders because you once again place the same value on you playing the game versus him creating the whole thing.... Your 2 dollars a month is worth more than anything in his life or anything he has done for this game including the hours he has put in for us? 

 

 

Again like i said in a previous message , i think that the contribution should be for those who want to have a little extra like having a logo or mascot and such things

 

This is already how the all-star accounts works, you can change your logo and jersey numbers.

 

 

but not for limiting players from playing in the top competition and have the opportunity to be in a focus group. Changes made to the game can easily make it lose players so i think it should be taken care of very carefully. Many like me might see it as unfair that now we cant join the top competition and will want to quit the game. I can understand that some are willing to pay but it is not for everyone. It has nothing to do with what we think about all the time the owner of the game has put here or how we appreciate it. Nothing. I also disagree with having a focus group for those who pay and the free players dont have a word to say. This is also unfair to me. Everyone should be involved. Pay to have the possibility to say what i think ? No thanks. This is like if we would tell free players that you are not important and we dont care about what you think. This is not the way to go to improve the game and make everyone happy.

 

How it is now has been determined it isn't working because the community hasn't grown, and if you haven't figured it out yet the option to pay is not exclusive to anyone. You, like everyone, have the choice to pay to be in the paid leagues. As for the focus group, what makes you think your voice isn't already being heard? What are you doing right now, is this not you expressing your opinion? Has Anders and Tobias not responded to this forum post? Have they not already tried to make compromises to make this better for everyone? People have been quitting this game non stop already, the problem is already present. All you did here was demonstrate how you feel entitled to have the game be how you want it to be where you don't have to make any sacrifices but you expect Anders too just in order to "keep everyone happy". You think it is unfair to you? What about Anders.... This is absolutely disgusting. 

 

Also once again the sponsorship idea is overlooked.



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I have to say Mocha is absolutely correct. We live in an age where many feel they are owed something from others, but the reality is Anders and Tobias have zero obligation to keep this game afloat if it detracts from their own lives, UNLESS they have enough support from the players to balance this. That support should also be financial, if that is what they require. Could there be many ways to accomplish this, such as sponsorship? Yes. I think we all saw that Anders responded to complaints by changing the pay structure and sending out the survey, which I hope most of us completed. Nothing worthwhile is ever free, every one of us here who is not naive knows this, and if you refuse to place any monetary value on a pursuit that you spend much time on (you are even on the forum commenting, after all), then perhaps this is not a place you should be. That said, I do support addressing issues like those of the 15 year old poster above that is unable to pay for the game - players like this should either be sponsored in some way, or perhaps all players can earn a free subscription season by season by placing in the top 2/3/whatever positions in FHL or whatever league they are currently in. This will promote competition with a tangible prize and reward our investment in the game.

Certainly it is bitter for us to lose carefully constructed teams, but this is life, my friends - for something new to begin or old to improve, sacrifices must be made, and it is clear why this needs to begin with a clean slate. And here I too agree with Mocha - the best part of this and other sim games is building a new team from nothing. Keep your history and build a new path. I also agree that there is some stagnation, which is easily seen. Not much communication, not many trades. Many teams keeping their roster the same year after year despite placing poorly. With the reset, Anders is also trying to welcome new and eager players to an expanded world, and this should help fix these issues. 

Anders and Tobias have done brilliant work on this sim, and have kept it free until now - let's show them support and trust them to make the right decision. For another point of discussion, however - there is one thing missing in the Fall 2018 launch - and that is promotion. I would like to hear more words about HOW we can attract more managers into an expanded game world and what promotion and advertising will be done to make this happen. 






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