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Posted July 18, 2016 - 02:57 AM

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Hey guys I came here because I'm a little confused (and annoyed) that I didn't  get the right pick in a trade. In case you didn't know I'm the manager of the Wynyard Wildfire. I won the last two championships but it was mostly off of the back of a lot of old players, and with the old guys getting a huge nerf this season, I had been going through a rebuild phase so I could be competitive again. I had a few players on my team who were quite good, young players, but they didn't really have a good place on my team (I already had someone for that role). I wanted to trade them away, but wanted to make sure I would get proper value for my players. As I was going through a rebuild time, I thought it would be important to try to get a high pick in this years draft. I went to the York Rats and offered them a deal to send my two good young guys plus my second for one younger guy and their first. It was a completely reasonable trade for both sides (you can check it out for yourself, it happened on day 58). For me the main reason to make the trade was that I didn't think I could make a run in playoffs, and I would be getting the first overall pick in this years draft (if they stayed where they did, which is what happened). As you can see if you check, I didn't win a single game after that trade, and I sacrificed some good young players. I was all happy with that as I didn't think I could win this year, and I was hyped to get to pick first overall. Then I log onto today to make some roster changes, plan for next season, and set my picks, and it apparently the pick I got was the one belonging to the Canmore Rockets, which wasn't only not the first overall pick, it wasn't even a GHL first (it was an SHL first, 46th overall). I feel completely ripped off as the only reason I gave away those players (and a second might I add, which is higher than an SHL first), was to get the first overall pick, which I didn't get. As a loyal player of this game, and one of the few people still in mitts GHL, I'm asking the guy in charge (Anders, right?) to fix this scenario and give me back the first overall pick. I'll still keep playing regardless, but it kinda defeats the point of trading for a pick, when you don't even get that pick ;) (sorry for the long paragraph, I just thought I'd explain myself)

 

TL;DR: I didn't get the pick I traded for, I would like the first overall pick back, which I deserve.



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Posted July 18, 2016 - 03:57 PM

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It sounds like you tried to trade for the first overall pick, which belonged to the worst team in the GHL before the end of the regular season.  However, in the current system, that team (the York Rats) would get relegated to the SHL.  Once a team is relegated, the original picks that they owned at the beginning of the year get switched with the team that finished first in the league below, and is scheduled for promotion.    

 

Therefore, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round GHL picks originally belonging to the York Rats become the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round SHL picks belonging to the Canmore Rockets.  This happens regardless of which team now owns those picks (i.e., picks that have been traded to other teams).  So even though you traded for the *then* first overall pick, when the Rats team got relegated, it became a first round SHL pick.  

 

This isn't a bug or the system trying to cheat you.  Unfortunately for you, it sounds like you misunderstood the system and are now paying for a simple mistake.  You could message the manager you originally traded with and try to take back the trade, but whether he wants to accept this new trade would be up to him.  

 

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.  Best of luck.  



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Posted July 18, 2016 - 05:51 PM

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I guess the trick is to trade with the GHL team that finishes the season in 14th place, they avoid relegation, or trade with the SHL team that finishes 1st because they will be promoted.  Both have a good shot at the earning the first overall pick, however this is not a guarantee.  There is a lottery system, so even the 14th place team in GHL and 1st place team in SHL may not get the first overall pick.  As with any trade, it's a gamble.


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Posted July 18, 2016 - 09:12 PM

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Excellent point.  I forgot about the lottery.  Thanks for clearing that up.  



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Posted July 18, 2016 - 10:09 PM

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OK, this all makes sense, and I'm not that annoyed. One question though, was this a change in the recent patch or something, because I remember my friend doing the same thing to get the first overall pick a few years ago. Also, on the legit bug note (this one actually is a problem) when I was setting the people to draft for my picks, I had a couple people that I wanted so I added them to my shortlist and set there draft preferences. Now the problem I ran across was that the one player I wanted to draft with the pick that we had just been talking about (SHL 1st), I wasn't sure what round to set them to be drafted. I put 2nd round because I figured that was, since 2nd is ahead of SHL 1st, I would get the guy without a problem. Then when I checked the results, somehow (despite that fact I have it on "always use shortlist" setting) it drafted a guy that wasn't on my shortlist when the guy I had shortlisted was still there. I'm one is definitely a bug because I should have gotten the guy that I shortlisted, not some random guy with that pick.

 

Just for your information: The guy I wanted was Seyi MccIoy (drafted 53rd overall) I the guy I got was Jess DIlorenzo at 46th overall who I definitely didn't have shortlisted



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Posted July 19, 2016 - 10:50 AM

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iirc there's a bug regarding drafting, which is being looked into(?). There's also chance that you fucked it up, without chancing draft pref to prefer shortlist over rank, like I did....



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Posted July 19, 2016 - 08:46 PM

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"One question though, was this a change in the recent patch or something, because I remember my friend doing the same thing to get the first overall pick a few years ago."

 

The switching of SHL/GHL promotion/relegation picks and lottery have been in effect since the draft was instituted, IIRC.


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